I'm with Blondie on this one. Understanding the WT beliefs means knowing the history of the beliefs, how they have evolved, and what influenced those evolutionary changes. Just looking at the current teachings and how they don't make sense is missing the overall understanding that comes with knowing the history.
dropoffyourkeylee
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144,000 + 1 kings
by moomanchu ini wonder why so many kings are needed for the millennial reign?
the almighty governing body says 24,000,000,000 people combined from those resurrected and the survivors of the big 'a' could make it into paradise.
that gives you 1 king for every 166,665 persons.
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Characteristics of a Cult - Heaven's Gate
by dropoffyourkeylee inchacteristics of a cult - by my count, wt ticks 9 of the 12 boxes.
last night i watched a really interesting video (link below) put out by an ex-mormon site discussing the heaven's gate cult.
the person interviewed had a unique perspective in that he had firsthand contact with that group, specifically the house they lived in and the aftermath.
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CHACTERISTICS OF A CULT - by my count, WT ticks 9 of the 12 boxes
Last night I watched a really interesting video (link below) put out by an ex-Mormon site discussing the Heaven's Gate Cult. The person interviewed had a unique perspective in that he had firsthand contact with that group, specifically the house they lived in and the aftermath. Steven Hassan is mentioned several times, as well as the JWs at least once. The video is rather long, but well worth viewing for anyone interested in cults and where the JWs may lie on the cult spectrum. -
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They are running out of people to do their stuff.
by liam inthis is the watchtower study article being studied today.
so it’s the current new light!.
what are the new qualifications to be an “elder-aka older man...and circuit overseer?.
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They'll open MS and eventually elder to women. It will take a while, but in my opinion it is inevitable
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American Primeval and the Mormons
by Simon injust finished season 1 on netflix.. holy crap, i had no idea of the history of the mormons!.
i always thought they were like the jws, or the quakers, but they were full on fascists committing massacres.. i'm sure they are hating having more people be aware of their past, but i gotta say, it is more event-filled than the jw history..
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If it wasn't for Knorr taking the religion to the world
A good observation. Knorr was more of a businessman than a theologian or religious leader. Seems like he thought of the JW religion like it was a multi-national business. It wan't a coincidence that they created Gilead and started sending out missionaries within just a year or two of his taking the presidency of the WT
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"instructions that aren't sound by a human standpoint"
by mikeflood inwhat could be "an instruction not sound by a human standpoint"?.
i'm going by dissolving their legal entities...any guesses?.
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I think a lot of it has to do with the closing/sale of Kingdom Halls, making people drive an hour or more to meetings. Makes no sense to the average JW, especially where they donated their own hard earned money to build the damn things in the first place.
I don't see going back to private homes, at least in the US, due to liability/zoning/parking/ADA issues.
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My Beliefs After Leaving the Watchtower
by KalebOutWest ini tend to keep my personal beliefs separate from my posts.. i know that is often different from others as their posts as often one and the same with their opinions.
i think that is good.
you get to learn a lot about people that way.
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Thanks KOW,
There are a handful of posters whose posts I always take time to read, and you are one of them.
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News of fires out of control in California
by ballistic inhope everyone near to the region affected in california is ok. it's shocking to hear of the destruction.
these affected areas are some of the places i visited when i came on a tour of the us.
malibu, santa barbera, la, santa monica, hollywood and so on..
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Maybe there’s nothing that can be done to mitigate this type of disaster, but I could see changes in laws/ fire prevention. Minimum limits on reservoirs, fire breaks, controlled burns, construction materials, etc. -
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2024 Annual Meeting Doctrinal Change
by Listener ina change to their doctrine came from jackson.
this isn't a transcript of his whole speech but i thought i would try and get some of his main speech in writing.. at around 1hr26 minutes he starts talking about some dangerous thinking in feeling there is some wiggle room in regards to the schedule for the gt.
but you see, we need to be careful about what we are thinking about the number of anointed ones left on earth.
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It is ironic that they discourage college, but need money. The ones with education and good jobs are the ones who have money to donate. It’s an inherent contradiction. The LDS figured it out long ago, but the WT just doesn’t get it
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WT HQ is never proactive, they are reactive to everything put out showing their blatant hypocrisy and abject stupidity
by WingCommander ina few on here (and of course many on the ex-jw reddit forum) have mentioned that wt hq just recently (like in the past couple months) put out a video warning against the praising of jw actors, taking photos with them, etc.
to not do it anymore.
it was narrated by geoffrey jackson.
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dropoffyourkeylee
I wonder if the masturbation-video guy gets many photo requests.
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The Curious Case of Cameroon in Africa in the World Report
by LaFrancia inwe know that in africa warwick/watchtower is adopting a policy of more congregations with fewer publishers in each congregation.
this explains the growth of congregations in the 2024 world report.. cameroon world report 2019 vs. 2024.. with the same number of publishers the congregations grew by about 13%.. will there be many more curious cases out there?.
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It could be that they are mostly newly converted and there weren’t enough elders to make the extra congregations.