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  They are running out of people to do their stuff.

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is the watchtower study article being studied today.

  so it’s the current new light!.

  what are the new qualifications to be an “elder-aka older man...and circuit overseer?.

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  They'll open MS and eventually elder to women. It will take a while, but in my opinion it is inevitable
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  American Primeval and the Mormons

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  just finished season 1 on netflix.. holy crap, i had no idea of the history of the mormons!.

  i always thought they were like the jws, or the quakers, but they were full on fascists committing massacres.. i'm sure they are hating having more people be aware of their past, but i gotta say, it is more event-filled than the jw history..

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  If it wasn't for Knorr taking the religion to the world

  A good observation. Knorr was more of a businessman than a theologian or religious leader. Seems like he thought of the JW religion like it was a multi-national business. It wan't a coincidence that they created Gilead and started sending out missionaries within just a year or two of his taking the presidency of the WT
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  "instructions that aren't sound by a human standpoint"

  by mikeflood in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what could be "an instruction not sound by a human standpoint"?.

  i'm going by dissolving their legal entities...any guesses?.

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  I think a lot of it has to do with the closing/sale of Kingdom Halls, making people drive an hour or more to meetings. Makes no sense to the average JW, especially where they donated their own hard earned money to build the damn things in the first place.

  I don't see going back to private homes, at least in the US, due to liability/zoning/parking/ADA issues.
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  My Beliefs After Leaving the Watchtower

  by KalebOutWest in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i tend to keep my personal beliefs separate from my posts.. i know that is often different from others as their posts as often one and the same with their opinions.

  i think that is good.

  you get to learn a lot about people that way.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  Thanks KOW,

  There are a handful of posters whose posts I always take time to read, and you are one of them.
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  News of fires out of control in California

  by ballistic in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hope everyone near to the region affected in california is ok. it's shocking to hear of the destruction.

  these affected areas are some of the places i visited when i came on a tour of the us.

  malibu, santa barbera, la, santa monica, hollywood and so on..

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  Maybe there’s nothing that can be done to mitigate this type of disaster, but I could see changes in laws/ fire prevention. Minimum limits on reservoirs, fire breaks, controlled burns, construction materials, etc.
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  2024 Annual Meeting Doctrinal Change

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a change to their doctrine came from jackson.

  this isn't a transcript of his whole speech but i thought i would try and get some of his main speech in writing.. at around 1hr26 minutes he starts talking about some dangerous thinking in feeling there is some wiggle room in regards to the schedule for the gt.

  but you see, we need to be careful about what we are thinking about the number of anointed ones left on earth.

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  It is ironic that they discourage college, but need money. The ones with education and good jobs are the ones who have money to donate. It’s an inherent contradiction. The LDS figured it out long ago, but the WT just doesn’t get it
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  WT HQ is never proactive, they are reactive to everything put out showing their blatant hypocrisy and abject stupidity

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a few on here (and of course many on the ex-jw reddit forum) have mentioned that wt hq just recently (like in the past couple months) put out a video warning against the praising of jw actors, taking photos with them, etc.

  to not do it anymore.

  it was narrated by geoffrey jackson.

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  I wonder if the masturbation-video guy gets many photo requests.
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  The Curious Case of Cameroon in Africa in the World Report

  by LaFrancia in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we know that in africa warwick/watchtower is adopting a policy of more congregations with fewer publishers in each congregation.

  this explains the growth of congregations in the 2024 world report.. cameroon world report 2019 vs. 2024.. with the same number of publishers the congregations grew by about 13%.. will there be many more curious cases out there?.

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  It could be that they are mostly newly converted and there weren’t enough elders to make the extra congregations.
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  Annual Report

  by St George of England in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the latest report is now available for download on our favourite website!.

  george.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  The number of people self-identifying as JWs, which is what is reflected in census data, exceeds the number of people who are click-the-box publishers. There are loads of people out there who come only to the Memorial, but are former publishers/ family no longer actively associating who probably consider themselves JWs and self-identify as such.

  I think an argument can be made that the life cycle of the JW religion in a given country goes through a demonstrable process occurring over several generations.

  1) First generation of believers commit to the lifestyle and are relatively successful in raising their children in the same faith. (high growth rates, 1950's through '80s in the US) (I realize the religion had a long history before the 1950s, but it went through a re-invention post-Rutherford, in my opinion)

  2) Second generation commit at first,but by the time they are in early middle age and having to raise their own children, stay in nominally but realize they are screwed and are glad to see their kids decide on their own to leave.(still showing growth, 90's through 2010's)

  3) Third generation is just hanging around and are non-committal, though they still may self-identify and show up to memorial to appease grandparents and parents. (2010's until present, stagnation)

  The US is in stage 3. Some of the African nations like Congo and Nigeria are still in stage 1, hence the vibrant growth. Japan is entering stage 3, Mexico is in stage 2 heading into 3.

  Where stage 4 will lead us in coming years I don't know.
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  How are new Servants and Elders appointed?

  by no-zombie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  now that we have the tick-a-box field service reporting method, how are brothers measured fit for an appointment as a ms or elder?

  has there been clarification in any of the recent elders schools or in meetings with the co?.

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  I think there was a change in the last few years about how they are appointed.

  Previously: CO's meeting with elders consider a candidate and the CO makes a recommendation to the WT branch. The candidate is appointed after receiving the approval from the branch.

  Now: CO's meeting with elders consider a candidate and the CO makes the final decision and appointment. The branch is not part of the decision. The servant is appointed almost immediately.

  Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I think this change is pretty recent (in the last few years)