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  10/31 New York Times, "They’re Giving Scammers All Their Money. The Kids Can’t Stop Them." Has Watchtower scammed your family?

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the seniors in our family were scammed by watchtower, for over 7 figures.

  an interesting read today to give some insight.. one of the most egregious con-artists is watchtower bible and tract society the “legal” entity for jehovah’s witnesses.

  many retired jehovah’s witnesses have been targeted over the years to “loan” money for various “special projects” to further the “preaching work”, only to find they are never to be repaid.

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  It is LYING to call these loans when Watchtower had no intention of ever paying them back.

  Who does the Bible call the "Father of the Lie" ?
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  Was Hell Consistently Taught from Genesis to Revelation?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some sources cite that the word or concept of hell appears 167 times in the old and new testament.

  jesus spoke about hell more than anyone else.

  how can such consistent warnings by many different writers over 1600 years all be parables?

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  If a person uses the Bible as the Basis for his/her beliefs or simply regards it as 66 really old books with little value other than a little history, Vanderhoven is 100% correct.
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  Bethelites dressing up for Halloween

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  think about it: they had to go out and buy halloween paraphernalia, then apply makeup & costumes to dress the 'brothers & sisters' up as vampires, witches, mummies etc.

  and you know they were probably joking around the whole time.

  what a bunch of hypocrites, the last gen gb would be turning in their graves to see such a photoshoot at the 'house of god' 😆.

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  My parents wouldn't let me see Casper the friendly Ghost or Bewitched,

  but let me see

  The Wizard of Oz.

  Go figure. I think if the Characters sing, it's ok.
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  BABYLON THE GREAT IS NOT FALLING ANYMORE? (NEW LIGHT FROM THE ANNUAL MEETING)

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/rsbfa_7lqv4?si=muuxmgtll1n1ifad.

  the watchtower’s babylon the great: a shrinking reality?.

  so this latest annual meeting introduced a new idea about babylon the great, and here is the part from geoffrey jackson's talk we real need to dig in and consider it's ramifications..... so you’ve got to hand it to them; they know how to keep things interesting with their ever-evolving interpretations and, of course, those classic "adjustments" in understanding.

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  When i read The op I had some thoughts. According to Watchtower, at least until I left:

  #1 Babylon the Great is "The WORLD Empire of False Religion". Of course this would include Judaism, Hinduism and the rest of the Asian religions, Islam, And EVERY religion in the entire world, Christian or otherwise. EVERY religious belief OTHER than WATCHTOWER.

  # 2 Babylon the Great FELL in 1919. The belief was regardless of weather or not the numbers grew or diminished, It fell because the BELIEFS held by the various religions NO LONGER HAD ANY HOLD on JEHOVAH'S PEOPLE. In that sense alone they ALL fell.

  The "RIVERS DRYING UP", was the sign that B.theG. would soon be DESTROYED .

  Falling was the past, DESTROYED was in the FUTURE.

  WT loved to say that religions are drying up because people aren't as zealous as they were in the past. Remember, this is primarily a US religion. They disregarded their OWN interpretation of B. the G. by ignoring the zeal of Islamists and other non-Christian religions. They simply wanted to point only to things that could indicate that the GT and the Destruction would be SOON.

  Of course, this whole post is how WT uses Semantics. WT splits hairs in order to wiggle out of their many false predictions and interpretations. ONLY when the passage of time reveals their beliefs to be false, do they get "New Light".

  Apparently, fewer JWs, especially the under 50s, pay attention to details given by WT. After all, most who did...already left.
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  1/25 WT: Oral and Anal sex are a go - if she's ok with it

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  he will not pressure her to engage in sexual acts that make her feel uncomfortable, that are demeaning, or that bother her conscience..... the bible does not provide details as to what sexual practices between a husband and a wife should be considered clean or unclean.

  a christian couple must make decisions that reflect their resolve to honor jehovah, to please each other, and to maintain a clean conscience.

  generally speaking, a couple would not discuss with others this intimate aspect of their marriage..

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  Dagney, Preach, Sister, Preach!

  If only I would have realized every word you said as soon as you did.
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  Serious sinner?

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with the statement in the study watchtower this sunday, that stop serving jehovah is a serious sin, the following:.

  - can i conclude now, that we, (i, wife and 2 children), since 2008 pomo and no longer active in any religious activity, are serious sinners for jehovahs witnesses?.

  writing this in a watchtower, a statement like that, could have big implications.. it makes me so sad.

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  Count hubby and me in as being shunned by family and active JWs simply for fading. I believe this is because he had been an elder. He and I were expected to be setting the EXAMPLE as JWs and we did when we were in.

  If we we missed a meeting it was noticed. If we missed ALL the meetings... well that was completely unacceptable in their world. Just by being absent we were setting an example in their minds. (a BAD one) They couldn't let us "Get away with it". That is, without it costing us something.

  So we are shunned and I'll admit it hurt me but now that it has been going on for over a decade, I no longer miss those people and their conditional, so called, love.
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  The World Today

  by peacefulpete in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been meaning to share some recent experiences that defy the usual tropes about the 'world gone to hell' or 'people now days".. as some of you may remember i was seriously ill for a while and had to close my business and shop.

  now, as it seems i have beaten it, i put up a sign again advertising that in a limited way i'm back.. what amazes me is how many times over the past 2 years customers and even competition have written and called to express their concern and best wishes.

  just last week i had a personal visit of someone who i thought of as a rival, come in and shake my hand sincerely happy to see me up and around.

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  Phizzy, You have my sincerest condolences. To be ill is bad enough but to experience a loss of someone you love dearly in addition can be devastating.

  When you get particularly sad please remember how much you are appreciated on this board and by those who know you personally. People really do want to help but often don't know how. Don't be afraid to ask your friends and family for what you need- even if it is just a bowl of soup or a hug.

  (((Phizzy)))))
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  JWN, 23 years posting Blondie

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  can i call you friends, i think so after 23 years posting here.

  i am dismayed how jwn is being "dominated" or taken over by a few posters, peppering the comments.

  in the past, the admin did not approve of this and did remove some posters from jwn.

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  @ Free TheMasons:

  Did you ever start a Bible study with someone you found in "field service" when you were a JW? I honestly want to know, because if you did you must have had a better approach than you do on this board.

  If not, we all know why.
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  JWN, 23 years posting Blondie

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  can i call you friends, i think so after 23 years posting here.

  i am dismayed how jwn is being "dominated" or taken over by a few posters, peppering the comments.

  in the past, the admin did not approve of this and did remove some posters from jwn.

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  Blondie, You took the words right out of my mouth, well, keyboard.

  These few posters should PM each other and leave the rest of us alone. It is negatively impacting JWN.

  If this board was like it is now when I stumbled across it 12 years ago I might still be an inactive JW never learning TTATT. Simply withdrawing from Watchtower is not enough to rid ourselves of the Fear Obligation and Guilt associated with it.

  It is a shame to see some have left one cult simply to join another, be it religious or Political.
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  WTS 2024 Annual Business Meeting ...

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ... is just three weeks from this saturday.

  the org has been tight-lipped, really, successfully secret about advance info on these in recent years,.

  now that these relatively recent changes on dress and grooming, reporting fs time, judicial matters, etc.

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  Kerry King,

  Just to be clear, my aunt never was asked to write for WTS nor were most of the partakers. They were Occasionally Consulted about their opinions is all. A few wrote their life stories but that's about it.

  Also, I don't know how many partakers were asked for their opinions. Were ALL of them asked or was it just the ones who partook BEFORE 1935? My guess it was only the pre 1935 ones. Since the belief was that the number144,000 was "sealed" by 1935.