marlon wayans, co-star of scary movie, is co-host of the mtv video music awards on sept. 7.. by joel stein; marlon wayans .
q. i'm white, so i never saw the wayans brothers tv show.
was it any good?.
A "fly girl" was a dancer on the TV show, "In Living Color" created by Keenan Ivory Wayans and featured all of the Wayan children and others. It was a very funny show. Made fun of everyone. That is where Jennifer Lopez got her start, as a "fly girl."
If you live in the US, the reruns are on one of the syndicated stations, not sure which one.
possible reasons for a jw not watching 'survivor' .
ritualism.
occasional 'sexual' content.
Those are all the reasons why I did not miss one single episode. I was addicted! To make matters worse, it fell on the night of our school and service meeting. That means I missed 13 Thursday night meetings in a row, more if you add the ones I missed before and after. Come to think of it, I've only been to 1 Thursday nite meeting in about 6 months. No wonder I'm "spiritually sick."
P.S. Does this mean I'm not a "real JW?"
why are jw women so loyal to the borg?.
during the last 12 year i have been doing a lot of research about mainly the chronology of jw about the year 1914. my family are still in and very active and i serve still as elder.
my research has make me dropped the whole chronology about the year 1914 and also the authorities of dfs/gb.
"Because if she were to believe the evidence about the organization that I present to her, that would threaten the very existence of her being. She does not know her identity apart from the Borg and has no wish to seperate from the organization that gives her this identity."
That is soooooo true of so many people I know. Being a witness means isolating yourself from anyone not a witness. That is why it is important for anyone considering leaving to start making friends on the outside and gradually get involved in other things besides the witnesses.
For Bereoa, maybe you can find some kind of activity for you and your wife to get involved in where you can meet nice non-witness people. If she sees others outside the congregation as being Christian, perhaps she will open up to what you are sharing.
Growing up in the borg, and even those that come in at a later age, are all conditioned to believe that anyone not a witness is evil. I work for a couple that are Southern Baptists and they have better morals and genuine kindness than most of the witnesses I have ever known. They are always looking for ways to help others in need.
i am a policitcal conservative, at least a fiscal conservative and sociel moderate.
i support the death penalty, but i agree that our judicial system needs to overhaul how wwe treat criminals to achieve better rehabilitation results.
and of course, withhold the death penalty in cases where there could be doubt.. in mcveigh's case, i believe that he deserves the death penalty.
I hope the victims of the Oklahoma bombing can now find closure and begin rebuilding their lives to whatever extent possible. No one can truly rebuild with the loss of a loved one, but if they can continue on in their lives a little easier now, with this person gone, then I am happy for them. He is one person who had control of his death, 168 people did not.
why are jw women so loyal to the borg?.
during the last 12 year i have been doing a lot of research about mainly the chronology of jw about the year 1914. my family are still in and very active and i serve still as elder.
my research has make me dropped the whole chronology about the year 1914 and also the authorities of dfs/gb.
It is a very slow process to help someone see things differently. But, my personal opinion is that women are by nature, more loyal than men. Of course, there are exceptions to every rule but in most cases, I think women will stick by someone or something even if it is flawed. Men are more practical and logical, therefore, when they see something wrong, they are more apt to change.
Be patient with your wife. My husband started doubting long before I did. I used to get so upset with him for missing a meeting, resorting to not speaking to him for days. Finally, little bits and pieces of things he said, as well as things my father had said in the past, began to sink in. Our brains are like computers that store these bits of information. Eventually, it links together and causes us to stop and think about things. In my case, too many things just did not add up anymore.
As I said before, it is a very slow process. Be patient. Just keep dropping pieces of information to her. If she is as smart as you say, it will all fit together someday and she will hopefully come around to your way of thinking.
Another thing about women...they like to put down roots. She has devoted a lot of time, energy and emotion to this religion. She probably is not ready to dig them up and start over with making new friends.
OB
woe to those who stumble the least of these .
"let he who is without sin cast the first stone" .
[note: this is a sickening story, and goes to the heart of why many youth among jws end up leaving their religion.
Un-Freekin-Believable!
My dad use to have a saying concerning masturbation..."Anyone who says they never did, still does." I miss that old coot! May he rest in peace.
i now realize that the reason i left was because i just couldn't deal with all the important issues: http://www.greatcrowd.com/159ubb/forum22/html/000161.html.
expatbrit
Is that the same Sunshine that posts here sometimes?
when i think back to being in the wtbts i can vividly remember the elders and their weilding of power.. as an adult, and in hindsight, i can now look back in total distaste and disgust at the power and control these men exercised over our lives with 'apparent' enjoyment.. i would like any former or current elders to explain the actual feelings you had when exercising this control.. was it exhilirating?
or was it painful?.
i would also like responses from non elders as to how you actually felt on the other end of this control situation.. la donna ana
"Where it really seems to get out of hand is at judicial commities. Reports from those involved indicate that some of them have feelings ranging from sadness to despotism to titilation."
I remember a few years back, a family member committed adultery and the elders found out about it. Well, right before all of this happened a situation involving this same family member and the PO developed to where they got into a heated argument at the KH. The PO was a real horse's ass and remains that way to this day. This PO dislikes our entire family and does not try to hide this fact.
Anyway, when she had her preliminary meeting with the elders to set up a judicial committee, she specifically asked that this PO NOT be on her committee due to the heated outburst they had had with one another just a few days earlier (which several overheard, including the CO's wife)
When she walked into the kangaroo court, guess who assigned himself to be on her committee? You got it, the jack-ass himself. She was so pissed she almost walked out. But at that time, she wanted to be df'd so went through with it. It took her at least 2 years to get reinstated and I'm sure he didn't want to concede to reinstate her, but she had been to all the meetings, marked WT's, etc.
Just a classic case of elders wielding their power. This is just one of many instances that I could relate, but I will keep them to myself for now.
when jws ask one of the anointed just how they "know" that they are anointed, they are really asking what it is that god does via the holy spirit that tells them they are chosen.
a "bolt" of lightening?
a rush of the wind?
Thank you Copernicus and Amazing as you have touched on feelings I have had.
While a good JW, I felt a closeness to God. And on some occasions, when I was regular in field service and meeting attendance, I felt like I would survive Armageddon if it came that day. But, most of the time I felt like I would die at Armageddon because I was not measuring up. So I think the euphoric feeling is self-induced by our sub-conscience. The society tells us that we can only receive Jehovah's blessing and survive if we are doing A,B,C,D, etc. When we fail to do any of those things, we condemn ourselves to destruction. When we do everything they tell us, then we feel good about ourselves and that maybe, just maybe, Jehovah will spare us.
I lived most of my life filled with guilt, not for having some secret sin, but because I was not living up to the standards of the WTS. I use to look around at others in the hall and wonder how they could do it but not me. Anyway, once I read "Crisis of Conscience", the guilt left. But, I have to be honest, a void entered my life as well.
I feel like I have been deceived and my whole belief system turned upside-down. But your explanation, Amazing, makes perfect sense. Growing up in the borg, we are constantly conditioned to believe that we can ONLY be happy if we conform.
BTW, I have just ordered "Crisis of Conscience" (newest edition) and "In Search of Christian Freedom" to re-read again. My mission this time is to subtly bring out points to family members without them knowing where my source is. I don't know how much longer I can keep pretending. I'm going to pick up "ISofCF" today, "CofC" had to be special ordered from publisher.
This message board has been a god-send.
ok. we ran a thread recently about starting a new religion.. how about we start an international congregation here on the board.. we need 7 elders.
7 being a sign of perfection..er....yeah.. we need ministerial servants.. appointments will be general concensus..er holy spirit i mean.. p.o.
lets start with him.
Can I be an elderette?
