Oh...that is sooooo cooolll.
I wish I could've been a fly on the wall
out4good3
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Little Brother Burns Watchtower!
by OrbitingTheSun inoh my god, you guys!
some jehovahs witnesses just came to my house--and of course my latest strategy is to hide and let someone else answer the door, or not answer the door at all.
well, my younger brother is home from his first semester at college and he just happened to be near the door when they came knocking... .
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Don't say "Lucky".......
by Golden Girl inok...i remember when going to the hall it was ok to say fortunate...but not "lucky"..anyone here that can explain the difference.?.
my jw mother in law was always correcting me..even tho i wasn't a witness anymore!..and being the "kind" soul i am.. went along with her..for respect... but where was the respect for my beliefs?..apparently this is a oneway street!..ya know?.
snoozy..aka..golden girl...
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out4good3
they also have a habit of trying to correct you if you assign the word friend to any acquaintance you have who happens to be non-jw
"Oh...he's your "friend" now ???
Oh...and they also have dibbs on the words awesome or awe-inspiring
Just a few days ago my wife was grilling her non-jw sister because she used the term awesome to describe a movie she'd seen. Seems they take to heart either a WT quote or a speakers contention that only Jehovah is "awe-inspiring"
Edited by - out4good3 on 24 December 2002 2:27:19
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Christmas dinner.....need help.
by RubyTuesday indoes anyone have an easy delicious ham recipe for christmas dinner?
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out4good3
two words
Honeybaked Spiral-sliced....
I think you have to order in advance thoufh
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Twilight Zone dealing with Disfellowshiping
by whyhideit inyears ago i was watching a modern twilight zone, which was titled something like "the invisible man.
" i have seen it mentioned on twilight zone fan sites, but i have never been able to find a copy of it on vhs or dvd.
if anyone knows an online source, i would like to find it.
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I'm a big fan of anything sci-fi and I've seen that episode of the TZ. I never saw the parallels of being invisible to being DF but now that they've been pointed out to me, they are very striking.
I think I'll point out this parallel to my JW relatives the very next time we're watching that show together.
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Some will go back
by JH ini would like to know how many people here are thinking of going back to the hall if the elders go and visit them.
we had stories of people telling the elders that they had enough and wanted to get out.
on the other hand, i am sure a few will go back, but we will not hear their stories as much because they fear the reaction of this board.
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Other than the obligatory "passing of the stale bread and cheap wine" party to please the wife I'll never step foot in a kingdom hall for anything other than that again. Since I know the "cheese and cracker men" will soon want to have a discussion with me, if the new year witch hunts are indeed true, I plan on being up front and honest with them and not mince words. I'm steeling myself for the eventual "chips falling where they may".
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How are you getting along with your believing mate
by Leander inso far for me this is really turning into an exercise of frustration.
i feel like screaming
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I think one of the keys is that we both have come to accept, love and respect each other for the individual we each are and neither of us are on any campaign to make the other into someone we're not.
It took a couple of years of very confrontational arguements, a lot of screaming and yelling at each other, and a lot of saying things that neither of us meant, for me and my wife to finally get to that point. I new she really didn't want or want me to do anything that was hurting me and it took that long for it to finally sink in that trying to force fit me into the mold of being a JW was hurting me for her to finally back off and accept the fact that I had to be the person I wanted to be; the person I needed to be; and not the person so many other people including her expected me to be.
She allows her consceince to guide her in a number of issues "the society" would not really approve.
Take every advantage of this. If my family has a holiday dinner, anytime except X-mas she usually finds an excuse to go with me. I buy her flowers on Valentine's day, take her out to eat on Mother's day, have BBQ on Father's day, fireworks shows on the 4th and new years eve, anything to include her in any celebration that I find going on as a way to get her to celebrate life with me instead of wasteng it all on the publishing company. We spent the entirety of last summer traveling up and down the west coast and I'm planning similar trips this coming summer. This coming summer, we'll be hanging out on the east coast to be topped out with a trip to Hawaii for our 20 year anniversary.
I know you love her, but she's still stuck in the JW mindset. She's expecting you to turn into the devil himself , so, the best way to counter this is to literally KILL HER WITH KINDNESS !!!!! Listen to her when she want to talk about JW stuff but only offer your opinion when asked with the disclaimer "do you REALLY want my opinion?". The most important thing you can do now is to offer a lot of patience without sacrificing the stand you've taken. Find some common interests not WT related that you both can throw yourselves into, is she's so inclined. It'll be hard going no doubt, but, if her love for you is not conditioned upon WT psychobable, it's at least worth the try to save it and not just "cut and run".
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Will the guilt pass?
by rebel in"and let us consider one another to incite to love and fine works, not forsaking the gathering of ourselves together, as some have the custom.....".
i didn't go to the meeting today (again) and i felt dreadful.
my family went and i stayed behind.
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You are understandably concerned about offending and disappointing friends and family. Bit up cannot spend your entire life living for them. You desire to please your friends is because you are a good person. Eventually a good person has to decide they will no longer let misinformed people control the direction of their lives.
I spent a couple of years going to meetings trying to be the good JW for friends and family and it made me more miserable then when I was fully indoctrinated. Everytime I went the look on my face told everyone around me that I was irritated, unapproachable, and that I REALLY didn't want to be there. I found that I was killing a little bit of myself everytime I went and only postphoning the inevitable confrontation.
The eventual stand I took coupled with the two years of WT and meeting confrontations with my wife finally got her to see that I was a better happier person if she agreed that my relationship with or lack thereof with Jehovah was my business an no one else's. In the end you finally have to decide that you have to be the person you need and want to be and not the person the WT, the congregation, or individual JW's expect you to be.
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Words from my brother
by Elsewhere inin the bible, who are the small flock and who are the great crowed, and what do they have to do with jehovah?
how is the spiritual food distributed to gods people.
what relation does jesus have with the anointed remnant, and who are they?
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The WBTS is nothing more than a facilitator to career the slave class... If it was up to the Slave class they wouldn't have the WBTS. They would just teach and add new/more light to the understanding of Jehovah's Kingdom.
What !!!!!
BWAAAAAHAAAAHAAAHAAAAHAAAA.........
They really do make these lame excuses up as they go, don't they?
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Differing Lights
by out4good3 inthis was posted by a poster called centipede on belief.net jehovahs witness challenge and critique board.
where he or she got it from i don't know.. to all congregations united in jehovah's service, .
the organization has been under a concentrated criticism lately for our position on new light.
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This was posted by a poster called Centipede on belief.net Jehovahs witness challenge and critique board. Where he or she got it from I don't know.
To All Congregations United in Jehovah's Service,
The organization has been under a concentrated criticism lately for our position on new light. How timely it is that this should arise as an issue, because Jehovah in his loving way has provided us with a much clearer scriptural understanding of the light as is revealed through His Will.
We use the term "new light", of course, to mean our current understanding of scripture. Old light is sometimes used to refer to our previous understanding before Jehovah saw fit to clearly reveal his Will for us. But is this all there is to it? No, as we are about to plainly see!
Sometimes Jehovah's people have held a view and then later, taken an entirely different view. In this case we could say that the light was truly entirely new, and this is what we now understand to mean by the expression "new light".
In other cases, we have held a view, and then understood more clearly the meaning of scripture which enhanced our view with new information. This, we shall henceforth refer to brighter light, since it is not new, merely better understood.
Occassionally, we've removed former organizational restrictions and left the matter up to the conscience of the individual. This, we shall henceforth refer to as switched-off light.
There have been times when we've changed our current position back to a position we've had in the past. Henceforth, this will be referred to as recycled Light. As we all know, recycling is good for the environment and we want to do our part to help.
From now on, since the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses are the sole channel of Jehovah's communication with his people, they are then, the earthly head of Jehovah's organization. Henceforth we shall refer to the Governing Body as the Head Light.
When a brother is told by the Elders to cease engaging in any activity which is against the policies of the organization, this will be referred to as a caution light.
Brothers and sisters who desire to do street work preaching should realize that they are providing a very valuable service for busy business people. In view of this, we encourage you to refrain from using the old expression street work, and instead refer to it as giving street light.
We have been informed that there is new archaeological evidence of Jesus' earthly existence! We are so thankful for this new Son Light.
In our upcoming District Assemblies there will be new instructions on where the friends must put their vehicles when they arrive at the Assemblies. This will be discussed in a future Watchtower magazine in an article entitled Parking Light.
That Satan is the prince of darkness, we all know. As a result, any time we have a new understanding regarding Satan or his demons, we now will refer to that as night light.
For those of you who may know him, we are happy to announce that brother John Budd and his wife, Ethel have just had a happy and healthy new son. They have decided to name him Budd Light.
Cordially yours in Jehovah's Faithful Service,
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Sweet Revenge
by JH inhas it ever occured to you to think about doing something nasty towards the elders of your congregation after being disfellowshipped?
do you ever get ideas about getting even with them?
maybe your way of getting even is just by being here on this forum and letting everyone know about them.edited by - jh on 16 december 2002 18:19:0.
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they stated that the "Faithful & Discreet Slave" required my signature on the letter. Feeling a bit ornery by now as well as perturbed they had woke me up, I replied, "well, if he wants it, tell him to come get it."
Great line....
I bet the look on their faces was priceless....