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  Shunned from Sister's wedding reception PART 3

  by Quotes in

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  for part 1:.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=23578&site=3.

  for part 2:.

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  out4good3

  Great point all in line with my original thinking on this subject. Just because this is her "special day" what right does that give her to treat someone she claims to so dearly love and want to be there as second class. Perfect case of JW doubletalk trying to have their cake and eat it too.

  Although it would probably "appear" to be a nice gesture on your part to participate as asked, wouldn't acquiescing to her demands be just as hypocritical to you as what she's trying to do to you. You can't very well say that you would enjoy being the object of scorn by the JW community in attendance at this wedding so why put yourself through this just to satisfy her and the JW community who doesn't want you there. You're a person exercising "free will" as JW's as JW's so call it. Why should you subject yourself to being used as a piece of meat for a photo Op only to be tossed aside later because you happen to be distasteful to some in attendance. It should be all or nothing for you, just as it is to those who would be uncomfortable with your presence. If they are attending in support of the bride, should it matter that you are at the reception?

  [quote] Your sister said:[quote]So then, tell me for yourself what happened. What do you consider yourself to be, for example, a non-practising Jehovah's Witness? Or what? Where do you place yourself within the organization?

  Classic bait tactic. You tell her what happened and you get to relive the whole episode all over again, should you decide to attend. Why tell her anyway? Would she be capable of making an independent decision? Based upon this statement alone and how she's asking for your participation in the wedding, she's already determined, with elder and congregation prep, your status as it relates to the borganization anyway.
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  Shunning is the big story

  by joelbear in

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  i just read the story about the family in oregon, gone forever, because of the pressure of shunning.. in my opinion, shunning is the big story about jehovah's witnesses.

  shunning and the fear of shunning is what enables the control of victims of child abuse.

  shunning is what destroys families.

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  out4good3

  JT LDH

  You guys are awesome. Keep up the good work.
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  Hubby accused me Apostasy today!

  by Pureheart in

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  my husband accused me of apostasy today!

  when he came home from work i was talking to a friend on the telephone and he asked me what was i talking about.

  i know that he thought that i was talking about the things that i learned about the misleading prophecies that the wt had printed.

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  My wife does the same thing. I'm just patiently waiting for any glimmer of light to show through where she would question anything about WT indoctrination.

  Yeah, my wife claims proclaims all of the WT research she does to. But what good is this research when you're condition to only research documents provided to you by the Borg. Of course, you're gonna come to the conclusion they would want you to.

  It's a shame that you have to suffer through her making her move away from you before you will be free of the borg though. My wife has come to the conclusion that although she knows I love her and will support her, that I will not be coerced or intimidated by her or any fast talking elder when it comes to what I want to do where religion or anything else is concerned. This is MY LIFE, and I will not be a slave to anything or anybody through the guilt trip and mind control techniques used by heavy handed elders under the guise of shepherding or having my best interest at heart. This may come off as being macho, but, I am a "grown ass man" capable of making and living with my own decisions. Yeah, I had the blinders put on me by being baptised but if one day they choose to come after me for a df'ing, she'd better weigh very carefully what I've done and continue to do for her and what those elders are trying to do and choose sides very carefully. I have no intention of subjecting myself to any of their bullshit rules or procedures. If I sense that she's unhappy and planning an escape, although I love her I'm not inclined to sitting around waiting for it to happen like you. I'll be very pre-emptive to safeguard my happiness should she choose to turn on me and I know she subconsciously knows this. I've conditioned her to when I'm approached by elders that it's probably best for her to do most of the talking if she doesn't want me to embarrass them when they get nosy about MY activities. I've already "checked" a couple of elders in her presence when they've approached me this way.

  I'm very sorry that things are turning out the way the are for you. You can be sure that she's being encouraged by the Nazi Elder Police arm of the WTBTS. When you're finally free, I hope you find whatever happiness you're looking for in the real world.
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  Shunned from Sister's wedding reception PART 2

  by Quotes in

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  just to keep you up-to-date on my not being invited to my sister's wedding reception.. (in case you missed part 1, check out http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=23578&site=3 ).

  in response to the letter i received from my sister (which explained why i could not be invited to the reception) i sent the following email reply.

  and here is my case:.

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  Her answer is a classic case of WT doubletalk. Just another case of a dub trying to have their cake and eat it to at another person's expense.

  It's a shame that she's equating the WT organization with God himself.
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  Hubby accused me Apostasy today!

  by Pureheart in

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  my husband accused me of apostasy today!

  when he came home from work i was talking to a friend on the telephone and he asked me what was i talking about.

  i know that he thought that i was talking about the things that i learned about the misleading prophecies that the wt had printed.

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  Wow Pureheart, I wish I could have conversations with my wife where she will at least listen objectively. Anything that paints the WTS negatively is met with an almost bloodthirsty anger and an accusation that she's tired of hearing dissparaging things about it. Even a discussion on doctrinal changes with another studying witnesses we were engaged in ( the generation change) caused an arguement from her. She just didn't seem to understand how profound this change was.

  She doesn't push it with me anymore though. With all that blind devotion she has to the WT, she knows that she's well taken care of.
  I refuse to call it the truth anymore which irritates her a little.

  I'm still waiting for the light to come on with her though. Hopefully an expose' on the pedophiles running rampant in the Borg will shock those brain cells to taking another closer look at what she's putting this blind faith in.

  Still waiting patiently............
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  Wedding Rings

  by out4good3 in

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  i apologize in advance if this is a stupid question but can someone clue me in as to the supposedly pagan origins of wearing wedding rings or bands?

  i sure would like to hit some of my jw relatives up with this and watch them squirm.

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  Can't wait to spring this on my JW sister in law who went out and bought $7k rings.
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  Wedding Rings

  by out4good3 in

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  i apologize in advance if this is a stupid question but can someone clue me in as to the supposedly pagan origins of wearing wedding rings or bands?

  i sure would like to hit some of my jw relatives up with this and watch them squirm.

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  out4good3

  I apologize in advance if this is a stupid question but can someone clue me in as to the supposedly pagan origins of wearing wedding rings or bands? I sure would like to hit some of my JW relatives up with this and watch them squirm.
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  You all Rock!!!

  by tattoogrl333 in

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  i just wanted to thank everyone.

  i used to study with a jw and i would come to this site (against her wishes) and ask dumb questions, and you would answer and give me something to think about.

  i was sure the lady i was studying with was my friend and out to help me.

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  Yeah...I had family and friends warning me the whole time too, but I was too arrogant to listen since by the time they knew I was studying I was already fully indoctrinated in the Us vs Them crap.

  Didn't take me long to come to my senses though.
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  Do you think I'll be DF'd now?

  by meat pie in

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  about three weeks ago i told a friend about the un thing, no-one else, i had known for months but didn't tell her till she brought up a similar subject.

  i gave her a printout from a guardian article, i have only had a short terse text message since.

  i know she has a lot more to lose than i did, and i stopped going to meetings last year.

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  out4good3

  They only believe in the freeflow of information one way....from the FDS or the GB out.
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  BE AFRAID, WT could predict the future

  by apostate man in

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  i just had a scary thought.

  the wt could predict something, and because of the size of their organization, actually make it come true.

  lets say they had "new light" and every jw would be taken to heaven on a certain date.

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  If the WT did that all 4 million of them would be lining up to see who'd take the first pill. Pills would be forced down childrens' throats. And those that wouldn't take the pill would be given a big dose of guilt trip-itis for not following what the FDS demanded.

  Jim Jones all over again.