Wind Chimes......
Isn't anything 'pre-Christian' considered 'pagan'?
Outaservice
i'm interested in developing a list of things jws are allowed to do that have "pagan" or otherwise "evil" origins in the eyes of the wts.
what types of things are you aware of?
so far i've got...... red lip stick (allegedly invented to distinguish prostitutes from non-prostitutes).
Wind Chimes......
Isn't anything 'pre-Christian' considered 'pagan'?
Outaservice
mouthy said that she was accused of this ... and i remembered that i too was accused of starting my own church.
supposedly, i went up and down the west coast, gathering up followers, and then secured a church building in the seattle area.
the book, crisis of conscience, mentioned that allegations were made against some bethelites who supposedly secured a meeting location, and started a religion known as 'sons of freedom' or 'sons of liberty.
I know Ray Franz was accused of all kinds of things including starting his own religion. Of course, none of it was true!
Outaservice (Who attends the CHURCH OF WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW, BABY! )
there have been individuals who hire so called 'cult deprogramers' to get a loved one out of a cult.
they sometimes kidnap them and try to get them out of whatever cult they might be in.
does this ever work, and would it have worked on you as a jw?.
There have been individuals who hire so called 'Cult Deprogramers' to get a loved one out of a cult. They sometimes kidnap them and try to get them out of whatever cult they might be in. Does this ever work, and would it have worked on you as a JW?
Or does each one have to see it in his own time, heart and mind before he/she begins to think?
Outaservice (wondering how much they charge.)
sorry if this has already been asked before.
i was just curious, because i think it would be really cool to have a former "big wig" jw post here.
I was a Conscientious Objector and a Congregation Overseer so I was sort of a CO twice !
Outaservice ( Oh,............ that other kind of CO!)
for decades now the wt has enjoyed peace and freedom in most westernized lands.. but the wt does not really want the easy road, they do not want to be like mainstrean.
christendom.
they need to appear as though they are different, the elect, the martyr,.
I think they have grown in numbers when things were the worst. So as the growth numbers stagnate they might be trying it again! Poor suckers who are 'used' by the Society to accomplish their aims!
Outaservice
the thread on the wt$ and the illuminati got me to think, and since i have to write a term paper in my sociology class i thought why not research some conspiracy theories.
please help be listing some of your favorite ones.
i only ask that you not tell me about 9/11, or the kennedy clan assassinations.
The Watchtower Society is not a religious organization at all. They only pretend to love people and God but are actually a money making corporation growing in assets as much as they can.
Outaservice (hey, wait a minute, this can't be true can it?)
wow, i didn't think jws went out during the day anymore.
it's probably even worse than trying to find people at home on a saturday morning!.
they knocked on our door, and my wife answered.
I happen to live in a gated community and we have seen none in here. I guess my blood is on my own shoulders!
Outaservice
so often, you see people all up in arms because it is revealed that an individual is "gay".
do you really care??
personally, i don't.
pmouse, I'd worry right now about someone eating spinach! Bad stuff!
Outaservice
http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/profiles/listalpha.htm my hubby and i are thinking of going to a church.....it is about the right time for us.
we were trying to figure out which religion is suited for us and he found this site.
it is interesting that the description an jw's say that it is unusual that when people leave them....there is alot of resentment, unlike other religions.. i think it is due to the brainwashing....when you have believed something blindly, then discover you were decieved...it is worse than if you are a part of a religion where you can believe all they teach...or not.
Non-denominational churches do not have the 'checks and balances' in their teachings that denominations have, but you have to go where you feel love and are comfortable. I'm not saying that a non cannot be a good church, but be aware of the difference.
Outaservice
i am so upset with my mother.
she took a huge mortgage out on her house which was completely paid for.
her elder husband wanted to expand his business.
Have you introduced them to Amway? They're already good at door to door type work!
Outaservice