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  144,000 + 1 kings

  by moomanchu in

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  i wonder why so many kings are needed for the millennial reign?

  the almighty governing body says 24,000,000,000 people combined from those resurrected and the survivors of the big 'a' could make it into paradise.

  that gives you 1 king for every 166,665 persons.

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  Matthew 28:18 - "Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth."

  1 Corinthians 15:27 - "For God “subjected all things [everything created] under his feet.”

  (Psalm 8:6) You gave him dominion over the works of your hands; You have put everything under his feet:

  (Ephesians 1:22) He also subjected all things under his feet and made him head over all things with regard to the congregation,

  Bottom line: (according to JW Borg dogma) Jehovah ruled over all of creation as King without assistance, but when all power & authority is given to Christ, he needs help - from 144,000 Melchizedek wannabes!

  I don't remember Paul describing anyone else as being in the likeness of Melchizedek. Maybe I missed that!
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  The "faithful servant" died in 1916.............

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
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  .........according to the 1922 "faithful slave.

  the watchtower may 1, 1922 - faithfulness is loyalty.

  "to be faithful means to be loyal.

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  .........according to the 1922 "faithful slave." 😄

  The Watchtower May 1, 1922 - FAITHFULNESS IS LOYALTY

  "To be faithful means to be loyal. To be loyal to the Lord means to be obedient to the Lord. To abandon or repudiate the Lord’s chosen instrument means to abandon or repudiate the Lord himself, upon the principle that he who rejects the servant sent by the Master thereby rejects the Master. There is no one man present today who can honestly say that he received a knowledge of the divine plan from any source other than by the ministry of Brother Russell, either directly or indirectly. Through his prophet Ezekiel, Jehovah foreshadowed the office of a servant, designating him as one clothed with linen, with a writer's inkhorn by his side, who was delegated to go throughout the city (Christendom) and comfort those that sighed by enlightening their minds relative to God’s great plan. He noted that this was a favor bestowed not by man, but by the Lord himself. But in keeping with the Lord’s arrangement he used a man. The man who filled that office, by the Lord’s grace, was Brother Russell. Jesus dearly indicated that during his second presence he would have amongst the church a faithful and wise servant, through whom he would give to the household of faith meat in due season. The evidence is overwhelming concerning the Lord’s second presence, the time of the harvest, and that the office of "that servant” has been filled by Brother Russell. This is not man-worship by any means. It matters not who Charles T. Russell was—whether he was a doctor, a hod-carrier or a seller of shirts. St. Peter was a fisherman; St. Paul a lawyer. But these matters are immaterial. Above all, these men were the chosen vessels of the Lord. Regardless of his earthly avocation, above all, Brother Russell was the Lord’s servant. Then to repudiate him and his work is equivalent to a repudiation of the Lord, upon the principle heretofore announced."

  If any JW today denies that Russell was the "slave" and rejects his writings, not only are they anti-Christ, they're also rejecting what the "genuine" slave said in 1922.

  Obedience to the cult was even paramount 103 years ago.

  Perhaps a "new light" will adjust this teaching.
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  How to spot wolves in sheep's clothing!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  w64 11/1 pp.

  645-646 wolves in sheep’s covering - "can you detect them?

  how can you avoid becoming their prey?....to his first-century disciples jesus sounded a warning that applies to us today with even greater force: “look out that you are not misled; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘i am he [anointed],’ and, ‘the due time has approached.’ do not go after them.” (luke 21:8) .

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  w64 11/1 pp. 645-646 Wolves in Sheep’s Covering - "Can you detect them? How can you avoid becoming their prey?....To his first-century disciples Jesus sounded a warning that applies to us today with even greater force: “Look out that you are not misled; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am he [anointed],’ and, ‘The due time has approached.’ Do not go after them.” (Luke 21:8)

  The peril would be not so much from the openly avowed opponents of Christ as from those who would rise up claiming to be Christ [anointed] or claiming to exercise the rights and prerogatives of Christ as his empowered representatives. Disarmed by an outward show of godliness and by “smooth talk and complimentary speech,” many unwary Christians would be seduced into following ‘wolves in sheep’s covering’ and eventually becoming prey to such selfish deceivers."
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  Rutherford got SOMETHING right - in 1923......

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
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  ....but then he fulfilled a "prophecy" from " a few good men" - he couldn't handle the truth!.

  christians were witnesses of christ in 1923, but a new brand name light in 1931 "adjusted" that thinking!.

  watchtower february 1 1923 - "did jesus succeed in his mission in seeking the lost?

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  ....but then he fulfilled a "prophecy" from " A Few Good Men" - he couldn't handle the truth!

  Christians were witnesses of Christ in 1923, but a new brand name light in 1931 "adjusted" that thinking!

  Watchtower February 1 1923 - "Did Jesus succeed in his mission in seeking the lost? The answer must be No, if we stop our inquiry at the close of his life. His work was continued by those he chose to be with him—his disciples. Since then, and until now, they have represented him and his work. Are the lost persons and things yet found and saved? Again the anwer is No. But the Savior completed his work on earth, and was raised to divine nature that he might be the Savior in power; and his [Jesus'] witnesses have nearly completed their work (or his through them), and are soon (102 years later & counting!) to appear with him."

  
  

  
  
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  Even DEMONS were conned by the org into believing 1975 was the end!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  yb71 p. 97 country reports (part one) - "in malta there is a monk reputed to have the powers of a seer, in the confessional being able to know a person’s sins before they are even confessed.

  a woman in one of the villages was having family trouble, and made a journey to this confessor in the hope of getting some hidden information by the monk’s psychic powers.

  after being told of the problem, the monk said: “don’t worry about it, my dear, the end of all things is very near!” another woman in the same village, somewhat opposed to the truth, told this to her husband, who is having a bible study.

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  yb71 p. 97 Country Reports (Part One) - "In Malta there is a monk reputed to have the powers of a seer, in the confessional being able to know a person’s sins before they are even confessed. A woman in one of the villages was having family trouble, and made a journey to this confessor in the hope of getting some hidden information by the monk’s psychic powers. After being told of the problem, the monk said: “Don’t worry about it, my dear, the end of all things is very near!” Another woman in the same village, somewhat opposed to the truth, told this to her husband, who is having a Bible study. He said: “Well, you believe it now; but I have been telling you this for months and you wouldn’t believe it.” Her attitude has been markedly more favourable since then. No doubt the demons are well aware of what the near future holds for them."
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  The JW G.B. & Elders - imitating the Pope & priests. 😄

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
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  the coal calling the kettle black!

  change the names - you get the same result!.

  w58 2/15 p. 106 the growth of papal g.b.

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  The coal calling the kettle black! Change the names - you get the same result!

  w58 2/15 p. 106 The Growth of Papal G.B. Authority - "That authority reaches out to the individual Catholic [JW] particularly through the priesthood body of Elders. The position of the clergy Elders was greatly enhanced as....it was enjoined on all to confess their sins to a priest Elders....What power was in their hands as they were called on [by the Pope G.B.] to oversee the important aspects of life...and to guide the consciences of men through the confessional Judicial Committees!"

  g76 7/22 p. 24 - "However, as I grew older I realized that the Catholic Church [organization] did not satisfy my spiritual needs. I could not understand, for example, why the clergy [Elders].... interested themselves in the personal affairs of others in the confessional. [Elders' room]
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  Do JW's believe that TWO nations were created?

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  one at pentecost 33 c.e.

  or were they "overlapping nations?".

  w02 8/1 p. 12 par.

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  One at Pentecost 33 C.E. and another in 1919? Or were they "overlapping nations?"

  w02 8/1 p. 12 par. 16 - Today, there is a new “nation” that has Jehovah as its invisible Judge, its Statute-giver, and its King. That “nation” came into existence in the first century C.E.

  it-2 p. 473 - "When God’s spirit was first poured out upon about 120 disciples of Jesus (all natural Jews) on the day of Pentecost in the year 33 C.E., it became evident that God was dealing with a new spiritual nation." (Galatians 6:16)

  w14 11/15 p. 26 par. 11 “Now You Are God’s People” "In 1919, Jehovah...gathered “the sons of the Kingdom” into an organized people, in fulfillment of Isaiah’s prophecy: “Will a land be brought to birth in one day? (at Pentecost 33 C.E.?) Or will a nation be born all at once? Yet, as soon as Zion went into labor, she gave birth to her sons.” (Isa. 66:8) Zion, Jehovah’s organization of spirit beings, brought forth her spirit-anointed sons and organized them into a nation."
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  New Watchtower Study: Apostates and Red Balloons 🎈

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/gt0cuez3emy?si=wur7afqwryddqgnt.

  the new watchtower study edition is out and i have a bone to pick with the watchtower with paragraph 14 from study article 14. there we read: "we want to help clear jehovah’s name of all reproach.

  consider this scenario: you have a close friend who is kind, generous, and forgiving.

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  Nena & Banksy should sue the WTBTS for breach of copyright! 😄
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  Bible Lessons You Won't Learn From The GB

  by Journeyman in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for those on this forum who still consider themselves christian or students of the bible, are there any bible principles you came across during your own study or research that were never brought out by the gb of the jws but that you found significant or profound?.

  i don't mean doctrinal issues like the trinity, heaven & hell, etc, as these are issues christendom has been arguing over for centuries.

  i mean simple, scriptural principles that the gb could've highlighted at any time, but for various reasons - some obvious, some less so - have chosen not to.. one that stood out to me is in 1 samuel chapters 2, 3 and 4.. young samuel has been dedicated to the temple and is being raised to serve god there.

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  When the Governing Body & its Writing Committee plagiarised and adopted a Christendom false teaching from the NET Bible* - that the evil slave of Matthew 24:48 was hypothetical - the org was trying to deflect any doubts/questions from the sheeple..

  * See footnote.
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  How Do JWs Understand Salvation & What Is Needed to Obtain It?

  by LauraLynn in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from my experience within the jw organization, i understood that salvation meant a person accepted the teachings of the wbts without question as the "faithful and discrete slave," thereby placing their trust in them, not jesus christ.

  salvation consisted of being found "righteous" by jehovah and resurrected to everlasting life in an earthly paradise.

  to obtain this salvation, one needed to obey the organization's teachings, remain a faithful jw, and lead a moral life.

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  Nope - still exactly the same!

  JW.Borg/G.B. is still the "golden calf" to be worshipped.