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The Predictions Thread
by cedars in
1. jw
2. friends
i thought it might be interesting and fun to have a "predictions thread", where we set out our predictions for events to unfold concerning the watch tower society (or jehovah's witnesses in general) over the coming years/decades.. it strikes me that so much has happened in the last ten years, most of which has defied expectations.

here's just a few of the developments that i can think of:.

the abolishment of group book studies in favor of a "family worship evening"the creation of a "study edition" watchtowerthe halving of monthly magazine printing commitmentsthe unprecedented closure/merging of branches (16% reduction in branches last year)the menlo park scandal, a body of elders removed for resisting a refurb of their kingdom hallthe lawsuits in victoria, australia - the society taken to court concerning child protection lawscourtroom admissions about the faithful & discreet slave and similarities with the catholic churchincreased hate speech against "mentally diseased" apostatesastonishing lapses of judgment, such as the "selma and steve" study articlethe ditching of gilead as a school for missionariesambitious construction plans for a new world hq (with or without jehovah's blessing!
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Abyss quote
by d in
1. watchtower
2. bible
what do you this might mean.. if you look into the abyss the abyss looks into you-friedrich nietzsche..
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GB: "We don't know if Jehovah wants us to build new headquarters, but we're doing it anyway..."
by cedars in
1. watchtower
2. bible
the latest august 15th watchtower study edition features an interesting review of the society's annual meeting.. one comment struck me as evidence that the governing body isn't quite as "discreet" as it claims.. here is what the article said:.

"there are plans to develop a 248-acre (100 ha) property at warwick.

'although we are not yet certain of jehovahs will regarding warwick,' said brother pierce, 'we are proceeding to develop the site with the intention of relocating the world headquarters of jehovahs witnesses there.
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Do You Know C.R.A.P. ?
by Perry in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
there is no shortage of ex-elders, behelites, ex-circuit overseers on this forum that continue to spout their hatred for christians, even as they did while leading their former adherents down the same path.

the new religion for these preachers of paradise, is materialism.

in their view, science is the arbitrator of truth.
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Accountability: A good thing or not?
by Terry in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
what we set in motion we are accountable for.. if we are accountable, then, why not the one who set us in motion?.

if a builder constructs a stadium that later collapses, then, the builder is sued to hold them accountable.. god is the builder of the world of mankind.. .

man is either self-responsible or self-irresponsible.
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Alteration in the German Watchtower about spousal physical abuse
by slimboyfat in
1. watchtower
2. bible
i noticed that the german edition of the study watchtower for today didn't include the phrase about the husband "hitting" the sister.

instead it just says that he became ferociously angry, which need not imply physical abuse.

i wonder if the german translator altered it off his own back or was instructed, and how other language editions compare.
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Apostasy my ass!
by Glander in
1. jw
2. friends
let's call it what it is - disagreeing with the watchtower bible and tract society after baptism into the cult.

in no way is the literal definition of the word "apostasy" applicable to what the cult is using the word for.

it is a buzz word that scares the crap out of the rank and file and keeps them from communicating with those who have become enlightened about the cults lies.. we here on jwn have accepted the wt label, "apostates", with a sense of humor, such as calling our get togethers apostafests, etc.. but we are actually the "enlightened"..
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What apostates fail to recognize is...
by nananana in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
you can cut & paste all the excerpts from articles you want...you can leak all the boe letters, you can pretend to be witnesses and come to the conventions and meetings...but.

no other organization can begin to rival the success and magnitude of the prophecy found in mt 24:14. so apostates....don't waste your time spending countless hours digging up articles and reading books to convince yourself to turn away from jh's organization.

no matter what "evidence" you find you cannot ignore the obvious fulfillment of matthew 24:14.. .
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My critical thoughts about Paul
by I Want to Believe in
1. watchtower
2. bible
so this is an area of thought i had before even before i fully took the apostate plunge.

i started noticing that almost everything about the congregation pointed back to paul.. "do not forsake the gathering of yourselves together.

" not jesus' words.
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Suicide - How many do you know within the JWs
by Lady Lee in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
thw wts likes to play games with their statistics.

one interesting but truly tragic is the number of jwhovah's witnesses who commit suicie.. now i suspect that if a person commits suicide shortly before or after they are disfellowshipped then the elders would say that person wasn't a witness or that they had done something so terrible that they were too guilty to admit it and by their action of committing suicide they pretty much declared they were no longer a jw.. yup fancy talk to make sure any crap didn't fall on them.. so my question.. do you know of cases like this?

if so then can you answer a few more questions.. had this person been dfed or in real danger of being dfed or whatever the equivalent is if they were never baptized?.