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  How to spot wolves in sheep's clothing!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  w64 11/1 pp.

  645-646 wolves in sheep’s covering - "can you detect them?

  how can you avoid becoming their prey?....to his first-century disciples jesus sounded a warning that applies to us today with even greater force: “look out that you are not misled; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘i am he [anointed],’ and, ‘the due time has approached.’ do not go after them.” (luke 21:8) .

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  NotFormer

  Ding, WT condemnation of false religion and wolves in sheep's clothing, from the outside looking in, seems like one hundred percent 💯 projection and zero percent self awareness.
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  CSA Victom Speaks Out

  by LostintheFog1999 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i happened to come across this video at the beginning of the week.

  you feel so sorry for this poor woman who experienced csa and then the hardheartedness of the elders (what's new there) when she needed genuine love and help.. https://fb.watch/j1qacgxphi/.

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  NotFormer

  Copyright claim by Steven Unthank. JW OP was probably using his material w/o permission
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  The Waters of Babylon Are Drying Up (Now in Denmark)

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the drying up of babylon's waters is a profound biblical motif that illustrates the certainty of divine judgment against those who oppose god.

  looks like denmark is starting to hear the outcry of wt victims.

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  NotFormer

  What are the accusations by Ekstra Bladet and what are the reasons for an arm of government to launch an investigation? The letter claims false accusations but doesn't say what they are.
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  Are Jehovah's Witnesses the Most Persecuted Christians on Earth?

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://youtu.be/ogxeebmjgyq?si=yowzsbtvmjlzdakd.

  https://www.opendoors.org/en-us/persecution/countries/.

  the 2024 open doors world watch list for the most persecuted christans is out, spotlighting the top countries where christians face brutal persecution for their faith.

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  NotFormer

  Rutherford harrassed the other governments as well. Although he died in 1942, his policies of making the WT a pain in the arse wherever it was continued. So much so that they were the only religion to be banned by the Australian government. That happened in 1943.

  I'm surprised Australian JWs don't harp on that fact. I've never heard about it from them. I only found out about it on here.
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  JWs and Christmas

  by Rnadomchris83 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been lurking around here for years.

  i'm not a witness, but my in-laws are.

  my wife grew up in it but was never baptized.

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  NotFormer

  "Anyway, her husband came over for the weekly visit last night. She stated that on (JW) TikTok there are talks of them allowing people to celebrate Christmas..."

  Suddenly, the possibility that the WT may allow such things makes sense! It allows people like your in-laws to invite estranged or distant family to a family gathering where they can take the hold of the narrative. That makes sense in the broader world, but in America and Canada, Thanksgiving would be the appropriate holiday to commandeer. Bethel could provide the appropriate "discussion" topics at the table and an appropriate form of prayer* before the meal.

  * Not Grace; they don't believe in grace 😉
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  2024 Annual Meeting Doctrinal Change

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a change to their doctrine came from jackson.

  this isn't a transcript of his whole speech but i thought i would try and get some of his main speech in writing.. at around 1hr26 minutes he starts talking about some dangerous thinking in feeling there is some wiggle room in regards to the schedule for the gt.

  but you see, we need to be careful about what we are thinking about the number of anointed ones left on earth.

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  NotFormer

  blondie, I was scratching my head about their estimate of how long Noah took to build the Ark when I read that article in the 90s. I knew about the 120 years and that they claim to be the new ark and saw that they could claim the new ark could take 120 years to get everyone in, thus giving themselves a new date of 2034.

  They never did though. Perhaps even they got sick of date setting.
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  News of fires out of control in California

  by ballistic in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hope everyone near to the region affected in california is ok. it's shocking to hear of the destruction.

  these affected areas are some of the places i visited when i came on a tour of the us.

  malibu, santa barbera, la, santa monica, hollywood and so on..

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  NotFormer

  I don't see how WT can cash in on this* nor how individual JWs can wonder if this is the big A. Bushfires don't make up much of the end times literature.

  * Prophetically speaking, that is. Of course they'll have their hand out, claiming they will use any proffered funds for disaster relief. 🙄
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  Do children still get destroyed at Armageddon?

  by Anony Mous in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i know back in the day, that was taught, that if the parents were going to be destroyed, so would the children.

  i just can't easily find reference to anything.

  this thinking has been used to justify some egregious behavior towards children and their parents such as exclusion of children from jw family - why worry, the end is near, all will work itself out then - the end didn't come though.

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  NotFormer

  Mikejw - “New light is everyone makes it through Armageddon unless really bad.”

  Vidiot: "At that point, YTF even bother with Armageddon?"

  It does seem like the whole exercise is somewhat flawed. 🤔
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  What the org SAYS, but what it really MEANS!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  w16 april p. 9 par.

  17 being faithful gullible leads to god’s the cult's approval - thousands of young christian men and women are willingly sacrificing marriage or are not having children - at least for now - in order to serve jehovah the borg to the full.

  older ones too may be sacrificing the time they could otherwise spend with their children and grandchildren in order to work on theocratic construction projects supply free labour or to attend the school for kingdom evangelizers receive deeper indoctrination and to serve in areas where the need for kingdom publishers more suckers is greater.

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  NotFormer

  Are they still flogging that tired old horse 🐎 of not getting married and having children? They wouldn't have the numbers they have today if former generations of JWs hadn't disobeyed Bethel and created a generation or two of "born-ins".
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  IICSA Final Report

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the english legal system's independent inquiry into child sexual abuse has issued its final report, and its recommendations.

  to read the report in full just google iicsa report, if you search on the iicsa site you can find the specific investigation into j.w's.. but this recommendation from the final report is interesting, esp.

  the first and last sentences.

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  NotFormer

  "Fixed that for you. 😏"

  Admittedly, I'm probably being a bit too circumspect in my statements 🤔 That's the second statement of mine you've had to fix! 😳

  Back to the subject, did the British parliament really just vote against a full inquiry into this whole grooming gang issue? 😲