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  POLL: Will You Be Attending The Memorial & If You Are---Why?

  by minimus in

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  i was just invited.

  i thanked my old elder friend and he left.

  (i'm not going).

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  joyfulfader

  Never again! Last one was 2011 :)
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  Feb Kingdom Ministry 2015: Irate Householders - why so angry?

  by Trailer Park Pioneer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  feb kingdom ministry 2015, irate householders, "we don't apologize for our work", "did they hear rumors about jws"?

  why so angry?

  blood or disfellowshipping?.

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  joyfulfader

  I agree that noting these particular topics is being used to weed out "apostates". It's why I always speak of my aunt who is, in real life, a JW many states away and bring up those topics as questions I have had over the years in her efforts to convert me. I never, ever mention I was ever a witness. I never mention anyone but my aunt and that has encouraged the few that engage with me over those points to applaud me for my "sincerity" and "desire for truth". 

  I was very good at refuting "conversation stoppers" back in the day but those 2 were tough ones that I did not encounter often and were challenging. I got the blood issue way more than disfellowshipping. I was way too programmed back then to see reason even when they brought up points I couldn't refute though.
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  Governing Body new Branch letter begging for donations !

  by ToesUp in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just want the governing body to know how "happified" i am today.

  keep sending those branch letters to the congregation(s) about sending your donations in.

  not only did you humiliate the rank and file with your tony morris tight pants talk but now you are begging the same people you humiliated for money.

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  joyfulfader

  "each Israelite man gave a gift “in proportion to the

  blessing that Jehovah” had given him, we today reflect on how He has blessed us in our lives and

  freely give of our time, energy, and resources in promoting Kingdom activities. "

  So from this point of view aren't I due a refund if my blessings were supposed to be in proportion to what I gave???
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  My "Un-Witnessing" Comments for this Upcoming Sunday's Watchtower.

  by objectivetruth in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i won't be there (fortunately) but perhaps my warm encouragement and hard work, in preparing these comments will help someone, who has the burden of attending the meetings, give a good un-witness.. 3. while on earth, how did jesus follow his fathers example?.

  answer - jesus at john 9:4 gave us a very important reminder, he said "we must do the works of the one who sent me while it is day; the night is coming when no man can work.

  " the figurative night that jesus was likely referencing was amos 5:18 where it says "woe to those who yearn for the day of jehovah!

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  No one listens carefully enough to decipher most of the points in the comments. I doubt even the conductor would have a clue...he would thank you for your comment and move on. Witnesses are taught NOT to think. The answer to paragraph 3 would most likely just be taken as being a slip up of sorts and ignored and the next few would fly over their heads. I do think 19 would catch someone's attention because of the use of that one little no-no word. Grace.
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  How to fade intelligently ?

  by TheFadingAlbatros in

  1. social
  2. family

  how to fade intelligently ?

  tell me your secret and then i will tell you in due time my secret.

  it's important when we have to face a manipulative cult with some members of our family trapped inside, yes it is important to know how to fade intelligently so that our jw family members are not going to shun us.

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  joyfulfader

  Be stumbled and stay that way. Have a couple of guilting conversations with a few elders on the depth of your pain. Be specific and detailed so there is no doubt as to your firm stance. Do not be wishy washy. Give no indication that it is negotiable. Stay home here and there. Take your dress to the edge of acceptable. Stop the ministry and turning in time. Then stop attending meetings and all contact...personal and social media wise. Then when you have avoided everyone for a significant amount of time, move. And if you have a particularly brilliant child who keeps being contacted against your wishes, that intelligent child will use their brilliance and say "I'm sorry. I think you have the wrong number." Been out going on 4 years now :) I must say it works better when you are single. My friend has left but their mate is badgered at every opportunity when my friend doesn't respond to "loving" proddings to do "more for Jehovah".
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  CONFESS or COVERUP

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the disconnect from the family of humanity......the snap of that fellow feeling......the cold indifferent shrug as each person dries up and hardens into a mere thing in a kingdom hall.....is a withering away of all that is noble, pure and innocent.. and when that icy moment sets in the rest of the world vanishes into an invisible nothing in the heart of that strutting and proud lump of human flesh called jehovah's witness.. it is the first of many deaths they will endure.... where does it begin and where does it end?.

  perhaps by defending huge lies?.

  if you are complicit in a crime against humanity you have two basic ethical choices:.

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  Anyone I have ever spoken to about 1975 makes excuse after excuse. Not once have I heard a confession.
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  One thing that's good about being a witnessi

  by dothemath in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went to the mall recently .....omg!

  glad i don't have to go through all the craziness over christmas shopping..

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  joyfulfader

  Loving this holiday season. I have bought slowly over the year and stayed in budget. my daughter and I have made the house a warm and cozy haven of happiness with the lights and trees....not overboard. I have done 80% of my shopping online with fabulous results And the other 20% will be done on Saturday. And I wrap and label as I buy. The JW excuse is the cop out....always was for me.

  its funny that I feel nothing at all strange about celebrating. I love finding the unexpected things for those I love. Aaaaand we absolutely LOVE our tree!!!!!
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  I need a good cry but I can't. Please help?

  by ohnightdivine in

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  besides being overworked and overstressed almost everyday in the past few months,.

  i've had to deal with a 'broken heart', insecurities with my physical appearance (gained a lot of weight),.

  and being lonely because i started distancing myself from the 'congregation', i just want to cry, sob, and bawl out here in my bedroom.

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  joyfulfader

  I know the feeling. for me it is as though ice has overtaken me and the possibility of a cathartic cry seems utterly impossible. Sometimes there is nothing I can do but I have found that there are a couple of triggers I can use involving specific movie scenes. There are 3 that work for me. The end of the series finale of Lost, the end of Titanic (cheesy I know) and the end of The Notebook. I am not a crier but sometimes we need that soul cleansing cry to clear the mind. Once you can have that cry try making a short list of things you want to accomplish in the short term. No more than a week. Don't set yourself up for failure by trying to take on too much. Try taking on one new thing to better yourself. even one step forward, however small, can lift your spirits to take another step.

  I am am so sorry you are over stressed and dealing with a broken heart. I have been there but I promise it will get better. Time has a way of passing faster than we think.

  ((((hugs)))))
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  Fibroids UK.

  by quellycatface in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have just had a radiology appt where i was told i had fibroids.

  great.. i had a mirena coil fitted 2 months ago to control heavy and prolonged periods, suffering for about 14 months.. i wonder what my gp will suggest now??.

  i'm gutted.. thanks for listening.

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  joyfulfader

  I can sympathize. I had to have iron infusions every few months and eventually had the robotic davinci hysterectomy. Itty bitty scar. Minimal downtime...1-2 weeks believe it or not. I still PMS lol...kept those parts so no hormonal issues but I feel alive now instead of always running on empty. Pure misery with blood counts at 7-8. Only a qualified GYN should help you decide. This was the road I personally chose after 2 yrs of suffering since I was ok with the idea of not having more kids. I did not go with the ablation because I would have to be on birth control since there is still a tiny chance of getting pregnant (not good without a uterine lining) and it is not always fully successful. My personal choice. Questions to ask. Be informed and decide what is best for YOUR health. Everyone has a different situation. Good luck!!! I truly hope you get it all figured out soon! :) Feel free to PM me if u have any questions about my experience.
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  My 88 Year Old Mom Is Going To Special Meeting Today And Shouldn't!

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my mom only goes out for doctor's visits.

  they are "encouraging" her to spend three hours to hear the annual meeting at the kh.

  she is on oxygen and can barely move.

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  joyfulfader

  My older parents are going...makes me ill. I mentioned how anti technology the society was and how now they are commercializing everything since it is to their benefit. I told her it's not even the same religion I left. She thinks it's all fabulous esp the Sofia and Caleb videos. She could'nt remember their names. I told her. I'm sure she wonders where I get my info. I am interested to see what is said. I hope it is so ridiculous it jolts them a bit. My dad has issues with the generation changes...