That is one of the FK-ing-est (is that a word-) funny briefs I ever read....If only they could be so fact filled and in every day English, even a child would understand!!!!
LOL!
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otherwise known as "the best legal brief ever": (warning: constant and repeated use of a vulgar synonym for coitus).
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/fword1.html
That is one of the FK-ing-est (is that a word-) funny briefs I ever read....If only they could be so fact filled and in every day English, even a child would understand!!!!
LOL!
here are a couple of pictures at my wife's graduation.. .
http://www.strike9.com/file.aspx?path=%2fundecided%2ffullsize%2fmom's+graduation+007.jpg.
emily and me.
Congratulations to your wife Undecided! That is wonderful! Great pics..
prisca's topic about personal responsibility vs blaming the jws (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/56286/824979/post.ashx#824979) got me to thinking..... where do you think you'd be if the jws and the wts had never been part of your life?how would your life be different from what it is now?what do you think you might have accomplished or done differently without the encumberances of the jws in your life?what kind of relationship would you have with your family?who would you be?.
there are no right or wrong answers, but think about those what-i-want-to-be-when-i-grow-up ideas you had as children and whether those dreams could have become a reality.. .
love, scully
Since I blame the WTS for causing great divides within my family:
I would probably have had no religion....my parents did not go to a certain church and were not a certain faith. I *may* have ended up exactly where I am. However, I think my mom would have been much more tolerant and forgiving of other people's *perceived bad behavior* and thus may not have caused all these deep chasms that exist today.
She may not have cut off her youngest sister, age 19 with two young children, for fornication with a married man; she may not have cut off my sister for fornication with her boyfriend. She may have tried to make her marriage work rather than deciding that since he was spirtually weak, she might as well divorce my father.
With that divorce came hate filled words about my father. We heard he was scum, hated us for not paying child support, left her to whore around, she gave 17 years to a bastard, he married a younger slut just so he could prove he could still get it up....it went on and on.
If my father were home and we were not dubs, I would have done better in school. He was much more strict with my sister and I with grades and doing homework. My mother didn't care. I would have tried harder. I might have learned to trust men at an earlier age. Without field service every Saturday, I could have slept in, worked on homework, done housework and then played.
As for family, it all went south when my mom became a JW. She became sanctimonious, self-rightous (or the dubs brought out the worst of her personality), arrogant and a know-it-all. When her young, unemployed sister needed help, (money, food, etc.) rather than help, she told her she was a whore for having an older man support her (for sex) and my mother would not associate with her until she stopped living in sin. Period.
I am sure I would have a relationship with my aunts and cousins. My aunts are like my mother. However, without the dubs, they are nice and fun. When they put the dub hat on they become like my mother. My mom convinced them all to do *in home bible studies*....she is also the reason they are dubs. Monkey see, Monkey do.
My father's family would not have cut us off. When we stopped celebrating holidays and my mother refused to go to her MIL because they drank and smoked (it was the 60's), she cut us off from our grand-parents. I saw them, maybe 3-5 times over the next 15 years before they died. My dad's family is quite large and extended. His mother's family is huge and lots of second cousins I recall meeting as a child and then, never again. They were *worldly*, thus bad associations.
I would be me....only a much more mild, soft, probably liberal version. I would know more about inter-personal relationships (from having them as a child) and how to act in social situations. I would understand politics and other religions better because I would have looked into them much harder.
OTOH, I would not have found this board, with all these wonderful, smart, witty people. I would have thought you were all nutty cult members!
in case y'all missed it, not too long ago there was a super-long thread regarding a piece of cloth with certain colors on it.
by the end of that thread, a new friendship was forged in the fires of jwd debate.. now i've watched my new friend, someone who i've become very close to and care about a whole lot, walk away from this place with tears in her beautiful brown eyes.
to be honest, i've thought about leaving this board myself.. but i'm not gonna do that.
SP will need to stop all the little comments and digs though which I am getting a little tired of.
Are we all going to have to stop?
I mean really, this is silly. She is not pushing any buttons anymore than a *few* other people here do, regularly.
*Little comments and digs* are what make up 95% of many peoples online vocabulary here. Stinky does it only once in a while....like me.
*When the dig is on-line, you can't do time.....*
(pretend it's Johhny Cochran...You'll get it!)
in case y'all missed it, not too long ago there was a super-long thread regarding a piece of cloth with certain colors on it.
by the end of that thread, a new friendship was forged in the fires of jwd debate.. now i've watched my new friend, someone who i've become very close to and care about a whole lot, walk away from this place with tears in her beautiful brown eyes.
to be honest, i've thought about leaving this board myself.. but i'm not gonna do that.
Hey Stinky, Come on Back....We need you here.
I need someone to *watch my back*.....
I'm not leaving either!
Tina
did you always know you wanted children?.
if so how did you feel after.. if you do not want children, why?.
i am not sure if i want children and i am interested in all your opinions.
I guy I know is 45 and his wife is pregnant, I looked at him are you nuts, how are you going to be able to understand what this child is going threw when he hits the teenager years.
OMG! That is soooo true!!! Some friends got married a few years ago....he is an attorney (slacker though) and she is a consultant. Both busy. Both early 40's. Decided to have kids immediately.
She got pregnant right away. From the moment the kid was born he knew it was a mistake. He told the men, it was a mistake. He had just started saving for retirement and now he has a kid. Then she/they got pregnant again! Now they have two!
The husband leaves the wife at home any time he can to get away from diapers, cleaning, crying, etc. He said he is just too old for *this shit*. His words. I can understand, however, I want to slap him and her for having children so quickly and not thinking about the consequences. They just jumped in and thought they were so *cute*. Now reality has struck in a big way.
He has now realized, at age 45, he will have to continue to work until he is about 75, because of college, etc. He is constantly lamenting the fact that they cannot just *get up and go.* Finding a baby sitter is hard, they are tired, etc.
Their marriage seems on the rocks now, which is even worse. The wife is such a great, beautiful woman. I think she heard her biological clock and jumped the gun. I can see a divorce looming.
did you always know you wanted children?.
if so how did you feel after.. if you do not want children, why?.
i am not sure if i want children and i am interested in all your opinions.
Editing my post to add:
Odrade: That is more or less what happened with my husband and I....you expressed it very well. We moved around alot (all over the country) and every few years it became *we will wait another few years*. Now, like you, I know, I don't want any. Add to that, I am *approaching* middle-age...I have to think about retirement!
I wanted kids....bad. My sister had her little bundle of joy when I was 16. I immediately became the designated babysitter. She and her husband went out partying and I stayed at their place and watched Jr. He was a good baby. I wanted a baby for *attention*. My sister, initially, got lots of attention for having a kid. I figured I would get lots of attention too. Just pop out a kid. Luckily, no one was interested in fertilizing my eggs.
Cut to age 20, I was going to a community college, sis had moved away and I realized I not only did not miss changing diapers, I never wanted to do it again.
I was at a neighbors yesterday evening (Mary Kay *Party*--UGH)....Neighbor just had a kid; 12 months after popping out the first one! The Mary Kay lady had a kid 8 months ago. Another neighbor, Shea, had a kid 4 months ago, a third neighbor came...she is 5 months pregnant. The Mary Kay lady brought a person in training...she had a kid 6 months ago.....AAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
I almost ran screaming as they talked about C-Sections, diapers, stretch marks, midnight feedings, ceral or not, breast feed or not, side sleep or back sleep, epidural or natural, how big was it, what does a big baby mean.....
Finally, one of them looked at me, sitting quietly, and asked "How many kids do you have?" "None" I replied. Shocked silence. They turned away, not sure if it were medical (I am to be pitied) or my decision (I am to be scorned). I let them guess.
I, luckily, realized that I do not have a *Mommy* instinct. I just don't. I have my cats, my husband and that is enough. I don't need a child to light up my life.
I will never understand that sentiment. Honest. I must be made of iron.
j. nicholson in uniform .
j. h. christ in uniform .
nicholson obviously has a spiffier uniform.
I'm with Jack on the cart....I'll even hit a few balls too...Not his, on the course.
As for handling the truth; they can handle it, they prefer not to. Too messy. Decisions to be made, etc. It is easier to sit back and *Let Jehovah take care of *it*.
the current discussion of an ex-gb member has prompted me to ponder this question:.
just how much of our personal circumstances can/do we take responsibility for, and how much do we blame the wts?
you may have grown up as a jw, coerced into leaving early to pioneer, not go to university, have no kids, even stay single for the pursuit of singleness in the kingdom work to pioneer or go to bethel.
aojumper, that was the eloquence I was missing....
So true!
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when the election rolls around, will you be pulling the lever for w?
i will, unless somebody comes along with the offer of free supermodels for me.. czar
Funny, no *hand out, left-wingers* responded to my thread.....
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/14/56189/1.ashx
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PS....George, err..Mr. President. Your News Conference is on live TV right now. You may want to go to the podium and start talking.