Thanks kaik. It's ironic to me that publications under ban in soviet control are now hunted down in a witch hunt by their own publisher.
Why? Oh, let's review...
we pulled into a hotel parking lot saturday around 6pm on the return leg of a wonderful family vacation to new england - an then fate stepped in---a man in a suit got out of a car with the rest of a picture perfect family.
i immediately noticed all the name tags--- and my blood pressure spiked 50pts- damn!!
i was booked in a 4 story hotel full of jws-- the only time they took off the name tags was in the swimming pool- they were so proud of themselves.. at 6:30 am the hot water went cold in the wife's shower- what do you expect on the 4th floor when a herd of jws is trying to get ready at the same time?
Thanks kaik. It's ironic to me that publications under ban in soviet control are now hunted down in a witch hunt by their own publisher.
Why? Oh, let's review...
a whole new watchtower society (governing body 3.0 / simplified society).
i'm not here to attack the governing body, watchtower society, or the jehovah's witnesses (jw) organization.
the bible says there is just "one hope" for christians (ephesians 4:4).
They won't read it, they won't care. It will be anonymous, so they won't be able to track it down and punish anyone. It would get quickly thrown in the trash by some serf in the service department before ever getting higher up.
Pb, research the trinity very carefully. I think witnesses develop a prejudice about it and can't see clearly after reading the very twisted trinity brochure etc, even after leaving.
if you were somehow magically put in-charge of the governing body tomorrow, by jesus, with the rules being, you could not teach anything that would be considered outright apostasy and you could not teach anything that would be considered to cause doubt about god's existence... (so as not to arouse suspicion).
what "new light" or "clarified understandings" would you introduce first?.
and which later on?.
so many great suggestions here.
I will just reiterate, add conscience, take out legalism. It's what Jesus was all about, and somehow witnesses just don't get it.
i have noticed when an elder or ms gets in serious trouble, many times it's simply a demotion.
local example.
well liked ms son of a prominent elder/pioneer gets caught doing the dance with no pants with his fiancee.
Everything is for appearances. They can't disfellowship someone currently holding a position because it shocks everyone and embarrasses themselves. So if what they did is really bad, they are given two chances if they hold a title, before being kicked out. From what I have observed, they are always, always demoted first. And then usually nothing happens unless they do it again. Holding a position can definitely be called a cushion.
as of this june (i've already given my may contributions which are substantial) i am no longer giving money to support useless building projects that serve no good purpose.
i am no longer giving money at conventions or assemblies.
i am no longer giving money toward the circuit overseers upkeep.
Completely agree about frank!!!
umberto, I'm so sorry you lost your daughter.
i just googled "most accurate bible in the world" and got new world translation as the answer.
comments?
my wife has recently become very curious about my activity on my ipad.
i delete my browsing history but if she should discover this site and my identity here, she will gladly hand me over to the hangman, something i have managed to avoid for quite some time now,.
i hit the "sign out" button, but i find that i'm still logged in!
I agree with you guys, but I knew with my husband, going slowly was better. He wouldn't have listened to me at all if he knew I looked at apostate sites.
By being careful, he came around to my viewpoint on things.
i just googled "most accurate bible in the world" and got new world translation as the answer.
comments?
we pulled into a hotel parking lot saturday around 6pm on the return leg of a wonderful family vacation to new england - an then fate stepped in---a man in a suit got out of a car with the rest of a picture perfect family.
i immediately noticed all the name tags--- and my blood pressure spiked 50pts- damn!!
i was booked in a 4 story hotel full of jws-- the only time they took off the name tags was in the swimming pool- they were so proud of themselves.. at 6:30 am the hot water went cold in the wife's shower- what do you expect on the 4th floor when a herd of jws is trying to get ready at the same time?
Well kaik, the publications would be safe if they were in your hands! But I bet the elders are worried about exactly that!!
i just thought of some old publications I once saw that were painstakingly handwritten on tiny pieces of paper for sneaking into soviet prisons from the 50's. I wonder if they are trying to destroy even those as apostate literature!! Bizarre.
it came today, the dreaded envelope containing my personal copy of "return to jehovah" from my elderly, desperate mother.
it included a small note asking me to read it over and to let her know what i think.
she got it at her assembly.. firstly, i'm angry that she continues to push her religion on me, given that i stopped attending meetings over thirty years ago, and very offended that she assumes that i still want to be a witness, which is her choice of religion, not mine.
I would keep it very very simple, considering you don't want to break your elderly mothers heart. Tell her you appreciate her efforts but you are happier than you've ever been and will not be making any changes and you love her very much.