(((A BIG WELCOME))) to all the new ones on this thread. Its great to see so many new friends. I'm sure that you will all find a great deal of help and fun too here on this forum.
Look forward to hearing from you all again.
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hello i'm kaz and i'm new here.. i was a jw for nearly thirty years, i felt like a "lame duck" when i left, but now i have got a life at last!.
i have only just got a computer, so please bear with me - i am learning to type too !!.
the lies going on, the definate lack of love, the treatment paedophiles and their victims, un.
(((A BIG WELCOME))) to all the new ones on this thread. Its great to see so many new friends. I'm sure that you will all find a great deal of help and fun too here on this forum.
Look forward to hearing from you all again.
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do you smoke?.
would you live with a smoker, if you are non smoker?
i wouldn't be able to smell cigarette smoke at home nor in my car.
Fortunately, I never tried cigarettes when all of my friends had a go. I could never see the sense in paying out money just to burn. Of course I never gave myself the chance to get addicted. I feel sad for ones who have got addicted, although I truly hate being in the company of smokers, especially after a nice meal.
Recently my dad was taken into hospital with emphisema (I don't know if that's the correct spelling) and it was so tragic to see him and so many others fighting for breath or their faces covered with oxygen masks.
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the jw bible states at john 5:28.
...all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice and come out..... this scripture was used (by jws) to show that only those in god's memory would be due a resurrection.. in our recent independant research, using 4 other bibles, this is how that same scripture was translated -.
...all those in the grave will hear his voice and come out.... why did they (the society) have to add to this scripture, giving a totally different meaning to the original understanding.. bibles used were.
thanks for your replies,
after 30 years of indoctrination, I can honestly say that I hadn't thought of it that way.
Well Ozzie, it looks like I've got a lot more researching to do.
I love this site :)
cheers
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just few more comments about the june 1st article.
above all else , please focus on paragraph 11:
these will hate the harlot [false religion] and will make her devastated and naked,
Thanks MacHislop for all the hard work that you've put into this thread, the quotes are very interesting and will be very useful.
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the jw bible states at john 5:28.
...all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice and come out..... this scripture was used (by jws) to show that only those in god's memory would be due a resurrection.. in our recent independant research, using 4 other bibles, this is how that same scripture was translated -.
...all those in the grave will hear his voice and come out.... why did they (the society) have to add to this scripture, giving a totally different meaning to the original understanding.. bibles used were.
The JW bible states at John 5:28
...all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice and come out....
This scripture was used (by JWs) to show that ONLY those in God's memory would be due a resurrection.
In our recent independant research, using 4 other bibles, this is how that same scripture was translated -
...all those in the GRAVE will hear his voice and come out...
Why did they (The Society) have to add to this scripture, giving a totally different meaning to the original understanding.
Bibles used were
King James
Philips New Testament
Good News
New International
Your thoughts on the matter would be appreciated.
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well, how's the weekend going?
grey skies and strong bitterly cold winds over the highlands of new south wales have made for a gloomy old day here.
still the warm thoughts of friends and lovely phone calls certainly brighten our day.
Only two at present but it's early days yet !
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just wondering how long this forum has been around, and if there is a web page or something like that for it.
the only reason that i ask is because it has been years since i left the org.
and have never heard of anything like this, and wonder how word can get out to people so that they do not have to deal with the horrible feelings alone.
Welcome Shamus - good to have you with us.
This is a great place to find support and help
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my husband and i were discussing what makes some people become jw's last night.
i was saying that if i hadn't grown up in it, i would have never been drawn to it at all.
i'm not a very spiritual person.
I have read and re-read Raymond Franz's Crisis of Conscience and it is EXCELLENT, So logical but without bitterness which is incredible considering the treatment Ray received from the Organisation !
I bought the book for two friends, (I didn't think that they would read it, but took the chance anyhow) and it was the trigger which got them to leave the Organisation, they even left it before we did! It may help if your husband is willing to read it. You can buy it direct from Ray's own site thats - www.commentarypress.com
i have an older sister who is 48. she was a regular pioneer and married a ministerial servant.
26 years ago she was df'd and divorced him.
she had moved away before i was even born.
How about treating her to Raymond Franz's book - Crisis of Conscience, that really helped me to make up my mind.
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this is the first since leaving the borg.
eh ?happy birthday my love!
hope it will be the 1st of many !!!
HAPPY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO LITTLE LOLLY xxxxxxx
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