Posts by FadeToBlack

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How exactly you and your income are being affected by inequality.

by cognisonance in

i found this link really interesting: inequality.is and associated with the excellent robert reich documentary: inequality for all.. .

FadeToBlack

Cog,

All the countries you mentioned are much more 'socialist' than the US but would be very high on my list of places to move to if I was younger. Sure taxes are higher, but when you are not paying for the self-appointed world's police force (as in the US), you have a lot more money to use for social welfare. They didn't change, they just never went down that path (in modern history, post WWII). I voted with my feet and we are in one of the currently lighter colored countries on you map (Poland). Wife wants to go back to Canada (for health benefits). Not going back to the states....

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How exactly you and your income are being affected by inequality.

by cognisonance in

i found this link really interesting: inequality.is and associated with the excellent robert reich documentary: inequality for all.. .

FadeToBlack

Cog,

Unfortunately it is not a problem to be solved. It just has to play out. The only people that could bring about change are those that are benefitting the most from the current system. Are they going to change it? Why? Are the folks at the other end of the spectrum? Not likely. More likely, if they try they will be classified as 'terrorists'.

Sounds a lot like a cult I was associated with for a long time. Only the 'terrorists' were called 'apostates'. Same result. Better just to bail out while you can...

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JWs in a frenzy!

by leaving_quietly in

anyone else get the distinct impression that jws are being worked up into a frenzy with all the changes and activity nowadays?

by the end of august, there will have been four campaigns inside of a year.

one last november, a memorial campaign, a convention campaign and an advertise jw.org campaign.. then there's the conventions with all the hooplah around that with all the video, and the aggrandizement of synchronized gb talks.

FadeToBlack

My wife keeps making little aside comments about 100 years since 1914. Not sure how much longer I can resist an appropiate response.

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17 calls? Are you kidding me?!?!

by Jon Preston in

well my wife and i still arent attending meetings....we first agreed to go here and there...oops.

anyways we missed the last meeting and suddenly our phone blew up!

it was like 17 missed calls!

FadeToBlack

Actually, Outlaw - that is not always the case. As they say, YMMV. Recently, even though I no longer attend, I had to change jobs after not getting paid for 3 months and several 'friends' gave us money to get by. In the past, I gave a brother/friend several thousand dollars so he could keep a roof over his children's heads. I didn't ask him to sign any docs as the WTBatS recommends. I guess this is what normal people do too, but I wouldn't know. There are some good people who are still JW's....

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women should go back to the kitchen

by never a jw in

i found on another thread a quote from awake 1967 aug 22,page 27-28. it's from an article where the wt proves that women should acquiesce to their husbands.

within the article i found something that suggests more intellectual dishonesty from the wt writers.. that it is in the best interests of both.

sexes for man to take the lead is also supported.

FadeToBlack

For proof, please see the June 2014 Public edition of the WT (God's view of Smoking). Both pic's in the lead article (before husband starts studying and after) show the good wife (blonde) in the kitchen (washing dishes or carrying out fresh baked goodiies). The 'bad girl' with dark hair is smoking. Every picture tells a story (or in the case of the WT teaches a vital lesson)...

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Question for active trolley publishers. Are you told not to approach anyone unless they approach you as part of your trolley training?

by KateWild in

if you actively do fs on a trolley i would love you to answer this question.

if you don't but know publishers that do can you ask them please.. are you told not to approach anyone unless they approach you as part of your trolley training?.

thanks kate xx.

FadeToBlack

Yes, but not even attempting eye-contact? That's just bizarre. I spotted my first trolley after starting a new job in Warsaw. They were parked under a billboard that was about 60 ft. tall with a scantily clad beach babe. I was going to get a pic, but it seems like they wised up and moved down a bit.

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I am going insane sitting here in the meeting listening to this repetitive garbage!

by stuckinarut2 in

so i am sitting here at the meeting during the "book study".... the study is all about gods protective power!.

oh, yes, protective power....for righteous servants of his.....but what about all those who are trying to be good witnesses, serving the gb, who are not protected from harm?

!.

FadeToBlack

Bu2B, your wife may suprise you. Just be kind and calm. Don't give up...

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I am going insane sitting here in the meeting listening to this repetitive garbage!

by stuckinarut2 in

so i am sitting here at the meeting during the "book study".... the study is all about gods protective power!.

oh, yes, protective power....for righteous servants of his.....but what about all those who are trying to be good witnesses, serving the gb, who are not protected from harm?

!.

FadeToBlack

Hey guys, If I can do it, you can do it. I am without a doubt the most non-assertive, go-along/get-along type of guy on the planet and yet, I don't go to meetings any more, and I am not going to meetings any more. If someone doesn't like it that is their problem. Wife is tolerant and we are actually talking about it. She knows I am not a bad guy. Of course in some ways my situation is easier because I have no other family in the borg. So the shunning tool is useless.

I understand your predicament if you have children and don't want to lose contact with them but you need to develop an exit plan that includes them, even if the wife in not going to cooperate. You might need to take one for the team - be there for your children when they need someone ouside the borg. I regret that I didn't do this myself much earlier. My son (now an adult and not active) does not blame me for raising him in the truth, but it plagues me that I didn't alllow him to experience a normal childhood. I know he would have loved to be involved with team sports.

What a waste...

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First Post - Emotionally Torn

by scaredtospeak in

i haven't been on here long but i found this site a couple days ago and quickly realised it had a lot of posts by people going through similar experiences as me.

i read some of the answers and it helped relieve some inner anguish i've been carrying since everything i came clean to my parents about everything i've been reading about.. .

i just have been going through a rough patch right now; that might be an under or overstatement depending on your own personal experiences with this kind of stuff.

FadeToBlack

Welcome, and I agree with what OEJ said. What's wrong with a continual search for truth? If we are really honest, we have to consider that everything we ever knew was wrong. That doesn't have to be a bad thing... Keep us posted on your journey. Regards from an old guy in Poland who wishes he was in your shoes (waking up early).

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My apologies to everyone.

by DATA-DOG in

jw
friends

i just wanted to openly apologize to anyone that i have ever offended on this website.

i have been thinking about this lately.

we all seem to go through the same various stages of learning ttatt, anger, sorrow, frustration, bible champion, agnostic, atheist, ect.

FadeToBlack

It is understandable if you are still attending meetings that you have to blow off some steam. The sooner you stop, and work your way through the resulting CF, the sooner you can get on with being the real you. Of course, there is always the chance you won't be happy with the authentic Data-Dog, but at least you can deal with it on your own terms and you won't have to suffer through any more meetings.