Posts by safe4kids

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bump in the night

by finnrot in

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as i read this board i notice that there are a lot of people that like myself don't believe in god anymore, and when i run accross a post where someone is professing their belief in god, that i have nothing but utter distain for them, almost like they don't belong here.

for a newbie that's kind of a ridiculous position i guess.

as i was growing it was constantly shoved down my throat that every other belief system was contlolled by the devil and run by his little demons, so after 1975 came and went and i realized that the one true religion was full of crap also, that left me with only reality to grasp, and that's, you live you die and the the worms eat you.

safe4kids

Hey Finrot,
Welcome to the board

I get easily irritated as well whenever ANYONE spouts religious stuff; I know that everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I do try to live by that, but I spose I'm overly sensitive to anything that reminds me of being a JW.

I too lost my faith in god; if he/she even exists, the evidence points to a pretty sadistic personality. Least, that's my opinion . I haven't figured anything out as far as answers to any of the big questions like life after death, why, etc...I just don't know. But I'm okay with not knowing.

One thing in your post that I don't see the same way is the idea of spirituality. Spirituality and religion are two different things! I am totally anti-religious...completely! However, in my opinion 'spirituality' means simply being in touch and aware of the interconnectedness of life on this planet. It does not, for me, mean a belief in a deity or of heaven or any of that other biblical bulls**t we were force fed. And spirituality is different for each person; I find it in the faces of my sleeping children, the stars on a clear night, the susurration of the ocean, the smell in the air on the first cold day of fall, the smiles and the tears of my fellow humans, and most especially in the taste of that first sip of morning coffee! K, so maybe that last one isn't technically 'spiritual' but it's like paradise to me.

I'm glad that you're here finrot...there are some really great people and, as a 'nice guy with strong opinions', you should fit right in!

Dana

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British People Ask: Does America Know.....

by Englishman in

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being a sociable sort of animal i enjoy the cut and thrust of lively pub banter in the mid-evening.

however, there are only about 3 or 4 of us who take part in on-line discussion forums such as this.. time and again, because it is known that i take part in this forum, i am asked the same sort of question: .

"do americans in general realise that the uk is totally 100% behind them in this present crisis, not just the politicians, but the grass roots of the country, do they know that we feel outraged at the wtc attack, as outraged as if it had been on london?".

safe4kids

Hey Eman ,

When I saw the video of our national anthem being played in your country, and your country men and women singing along, I was moved to tears. When I saw the tremendous outpouring of support and grief displayed by the Brits in the flowers and remembrances in front of our embassy there, I was also overcome with emotion. When President Bush last night made the statement that England is our greatest friend, I gave him my own standing ovation. The unity that has been expressed by Great Britain towards the US is truly a wonderful thing. In addition, I would like to say that I grieve also for all of the British citizens who were lost during the terrorist attacks (along with citizens of the many other countries). So tonight, when at your pub, hoist one for me! I'll be there with you in spirit.

Dana

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Tracy's Take on Bush's Speech

by FreePeace in

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tonight, my wife tracy (think41self) and i were talking about president bush's address to the nation.

i was reflecting on the demands bush put on the taliban, such as giving up any terrorists they are harboring, closing down training camps, etc.

at this point tracy summarized bush's demands quite succinctly in her own unique way.

safe4kids

"Vaseline....bend over..."

I don't get it...

LOLOL@Trace

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10 years since my father died

by hippikon in

it's been over 10 years now since my father died.

i was a jw at the time.

i (foolishly) felt relieved at the time thinking that now he would get a resurrection and wouldn't die at armageddon.

safe4kids

(((hippikon))),

I don't have much to add that wouldn't echo what think and gopher have already said. I did just want to let you know that I have always enjoyed your posts and consider you to be one of the more positive people on the db.

I'd be honored to consider you a friend.

Dana

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Solace for those who love America

by Gopher in

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god bless the u.s.a.. .

"god bless america".

safe4kids

Hey (((gopher))),

Thanks for the lyrics and the inspirational post. I've bookmarked this thread. I heard on the radio yesterday the song by Lee Greenwood interspersed with cuts from the Pres and victims of the WTC tragedy...it brought tears to my eyes.

Hope all is well with you Goph...take care.

Dana

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Mr. Outnfree doing well...

by outnfree in

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just thought this would be the quickest way to let those of you who have sent positive thoughts and prayers our way know that my husband survived thursday's open heart surgery with flying colors (more or less -- a too long getting off the ventilator for my nerves!

) and is moving to a "step-up" post-surgical floor out of icu this morning.

it's been a helluva week, hasn't it?.

safe4kids

(((((((((((((OUT))))))))))))))))

Great news!!! I'm so happy to hear that Mr. Out is doing well, such good news in this sad climate.

Hugs and love sent your way,

Dana

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Something DIED in me on Tuesday

by Amazing in

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i appreciate the words of another poster who commented that he felt it unwise to post in anger.

i have tried to hold calm and keep my anger in check, but that started to change with my nato posting yesterday.. i am set back over 30 years: i was raised to respect all races, and not to be prejudiced.

i was also raised a proud american, and that it was important not to tolerate bullies.

safe4kids

((((Six)))

I think I understand some of your frustration and I agree that 'collateral damage' needs to be thought of in terms of PEOPLE, not just a phrase that is bandied carelessly about (not accusing anyone here of doing that).

I also understand that we all approach grief in different ways...anger being foremost for a lot of people. I can somewhat imagine your terror on Tuesday; I had family in DC, near the Pentagon and we didn't hear until Wed am that they were safe. However, it wasn't one of my children and so in that, I CANNOT imagine what you must have gone through. Thank the cosmos that your daughter and her mom are safe!!!

Dana

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Out of the mouths of babes....

by safe4kids in

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on tuesday, i picked my children up early from school and explained what had occurred earlier in the day.

my son will be ten in a couple of weeks and my daughter is eight.

on our way home, we stopped off in a store where the television was on and showing scenes of the tragedy.

safe4kids

Hey Joel,

Interesting comments. I thought the difference in their reactions was kind of indicative of their respective genders...my son wanted to take immediate action and my daughter wanted to know 'why'. Before someone slams me for a gender based generalization, I know that they aren't true across the board...still, I did think the reactions were interesting.

Boozy, I agree with you! That was one of the things I tried to explain to my daughter, that those children had been taught to feel the way they did.

(((((Andigirl!))))) I think you would make an awesome mom. I make so many mistakes with my kids and when I get down on myself about them, I try to remember that at least I'm giving my kids better than what I received as a child. It was very bittersweet, seeing her response made my heart swell but at the same time, it is terrible that we have to expose children to the realities of the world. And my heart aches for children whose realities are painful.

((((Marilyn)))) How are you? Your family has faced so much sorrow in the last few months and your neice...what trauma to lose her teacher, to lose Sharon, and to face the tragedy that has occurred here in America. My heart goes out to all of you.

Thanks all for your comments,
Dana

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"3 Minutes ' silence in Europe "

by MacHislopp in

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just few lines to inform you that today,.

in europe - 14 september, 2001 - at 12.00 a.m. (w. time).

43 countries in all europe will stop from all activities,.

safe4kids

(((((((Brenda))))))),

How are you and Mr. Out??? I've been thinking about you and your family; it has been quite a week as you say.

I woke up this morning to a hurricane/tornado watch in effect for most of west central Florida (my area) and thought geez! what a week. I am also curious about the time zone for the lighting of the candles tonight...is that 7PM Eastern?

Mac, the expressions of condolence and solidarity, of pure humanity coming in from all over the world have warmed me and brought me to tears several times this week. This tragedy has affected so many different nationalities; it was not just Americans who were lost on Tuesday and my heart goes out to all of those who have been personally affected by this.

Warm thanks to you all,
Dana

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SUPPORT FREEDOM - by Simon

by waiting in

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howdy,.

look up at the top of this forum......see the american flag?

click on it.. now, just browse for all kinds of information about charities, relief work, companies involved in receiving destruction, where to find information, etc.. find others ways to help our neighbors in the new york, penn.

safe4kids

(((((((Simon)))))))

Just want to add my thanks to those of the others. You are a class act Simon.

(((((((Kent)))))) thanks to you as well. And thank you for the thread re: the candle in the window. I lit one last night and will again tonight.

Dana