Posts by saltiest

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What do you do for work and play?

by roybatty in

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im just wondering what kind of work people who post here do.

i believe amazing is a mechanical engineer (like me), xena is an office manager and you know washes windows.

and when youre not working, what does everyone do with their free time now that they dont have to knock on doors when the weekend rolls around.

saltiest

Right now I'm a stay at home mom of a six month old girl, though I'm looking for a job as an administrative assistant. When I have time I work on my personal web site, and others for friends and some extra money. In the Fall I plan on going back to school so I can add on to my self-taught web design skills.

When I'm not in front of the computer, I like to draw portraits and some painting every now and then. Her dad and I don't out much, but we love going for walks or to the gym as well. Any other time is spent entertaining my daughter. :)

Alicia

40

District Convention Drama Talk

by silentlambs in

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this is a rough draft of the talk follow the drama at the dc.

do you see any subliminal reference to dateline?

silentlambs.

saltiest

Of course if the media were to ever report anything positive about the JW's (can't imagine what), or like today, with the Pledge of Allegiance ruled unconsititutional by a California judge (most likely to be overruled), then they would LOVE the media. All the articles that spoke of the final ruling regarding the door-to-door permits, and the few scattered ones about conventions, etc. they look upon as a good thing.

Apparently the media, tv, and all that is only Satan's doing and evil..if they want them to be, and when it would benefit to say so.

Alicia

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Would you rather have more time or more cash?

by Leander in

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it seems like unless you're incredibly wealthy or lucky that its impossible to have both at the same time, especially if you're a working stiff.

right now between my wife and i we make a fairly decent living, however we don't have a lot of time to do things together (or alone) until the weekend comes around.

and we all know how short weekends can be, not to mention if a lot of errands need to be done that can eat up your time fairly quick.

saltiest

I would pick money so I wouldn't have to go back to work and put my duaghter in day care. I wish I didn't have to start work in a month because she has made me the happiest I've ever been, and I hate to think of leaving her for 8+ hours a day. At first I though more time, so I could work, go to school, AND take care of her. But I rethought that as I would rather not have to work and still be able to be with my daughter and go to school.

I see nothing wrong in wanting money. Shoot, I would love for some money to pay the bills so we could get a house and Ash could have a huge yard to play in.

Alicia

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Chilhood Memories

by space in

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i was sitting here thinking about my childhood for a while.

i was just thinking about how angry and disturbed i was at a very young age.

i was raised from the womb to be a jws,my dad was a elder and all that.

saltiest

I never lashed out physically, but I sure yelled a lot. I recall being so damn angry at my parents, specifically my dad because he never went to meetings (yet he still preached the JW crap to me). My dad had a nasty temper and I think the only way I learned how to "deal" with his emotional abuse and all the JW rules was by immitating him. I yelled at him, I yelled at my mom, my sisters, and sometimes I would go into the bathroom, turn on the loud fan and scream until I couldn't scream anymore.

To this day I have to fight my temper, but thanks to Lithium and determination, I've learned how to control it for the most part.

On second though, now that I remember, I used to kick walls and doors often, but I think that was the extent of letting things out physically.

I did have a friend in the congregation who did things similar to you, and it wasn't until her family left the Borg that she finally got help. The whole time when she was a child they thought she was "just a troublemaker" and even put her in a mental hospital.

I can't even imagine how many others experienced their JW childhood who had all these emotions inside them but unable to express them because it was always "wrong".

Alicia

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Family Death. Another one bites the dust/Bflo NY

by LDH in

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first of all, if you are offended by me saying "another one bites the dust," my apologies.. i just can't think of better words for what happens when some one dies after they have sold their soul to a printing company.. my uncle tom passed away yesterday morning in buffalo ny.

he was very ill, confined to a wheelchair for the last 10-15 years of his life.

he had ms.. tom married my aunt about 18 years ago.

saltiest

I personally am not offended by your use of "Another one bites the dust". Sometimes the only way to deal with this crap is with humor and/or sarcasm.

I can't tell how close you were to your Uncle Tom, but like you said, what do you say when someone has given their own life away? It is sad he had to deal with MS, and so close after losing his wife.

((Hugs)) to you, Lisa.

Alicia

19

confirm your apostasy.....

by professor in

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...and apparently get the t-shirt too!

http://cafepress.com/apostate .

edited by - professor on 19 june 2002 10:54:19.

saltiest

Actually, Eduardo, now that I know what it says on the back the shirt is more inviting. It wouldn't be quite as entertaining anymore, though, since I don't live in the city my old congregation is in. Although...I am visiting soon... :)

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Asking For Help On Important Project

by AlanF in

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an interesting project with respect to the jw child molestation problem is coming up that i want to get some help on.

if anyone would like to help, please email me at [email protected] .

there could be a time committment from a few hours to many hours, depending on how much you want to do.. thanks!.

saltiest

Okay, Alan, I got our email. I'm there!

Everyone reading this, PLEASE do what you can to help. Any amount of effort will be helpful. Just drop an email to Alan and he'll let you know what's going on and what to do.

Alicia

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YES!!!!!! Shunning has backfired!!

by Dawn in

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i was df'd a number of years ago.

my parents never shunned me - they didn't feel that df'ing broke the family ties.

but when my brothers or uncle were in town i was "allowed" to come visit at certain times when their other jw friends would not be around.

saltiest

Kudos to you and your son! I would've loved to see her face on the other end of the phone.

It's interesting how JWs in general will treat those who have never been witnesses BETTER than those that are DF'd or DA'd. In your case, your husband and son. My mom will talk to and even ask about a good friend of mine from school who has never ever been a witness nor even religious. Shoot, she had a kid when she was 16 and my mom still loved her. But when I had my baby shower last year and invited a friend from an old congregation who was DF'd she said she couldn't come. And she never did. The funny thing, she missed out on the only baby shower I'll ever have (not having any more kids) just because someone MIGHT be there...and that friend never made it.

I will never understand her "thinking".

Alicia

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Owwwww... So SUNBURNED ... Owwwwww

by joeshmoe in

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ok, i'm pretty much gonna be online all day, since i can do nothing else but sit here in my underwear, touch nothing, and curse the sun.

damn texas sun!

damn you!

saltiest

I've been burned way too many times to count, including blistering, thanks to my Norweigian skin. Good advice from everyone, especially the aloe vera and the Vitamin E. One thing I started doing the last time I got burned was buy a body wash that had Vitamin E. Usually I just put Aloe with E on me but I usually pealed eventually. Using the body wash (I buy St. Ives, but there are different brands) prevented any pealing at all.

Good luck with the recovery!

Alicia

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JW Display at the Mall

by saltiest in

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this afternoon while wasting time at the promenade mall, in temecula, ca (southern cal) i had a hard time containing my laughter.

just in front of me were two women behind a table full of wbts literature.

what caught my eye was a young people ask sign.

saltiest

Just thought I'd post an update. I've been to the same mall at least three times since my original post (it's hot here, gotta stay cool, dammit) and each time I've seen JW's at their little table. The last time they even had a small tv/vcr set up playing one of their gag-me videos. Also, there are different JW's each time.

The last time I noticed them (okay, so I purposely passed by their area) I walked up to them. I didn't say a word, and mindlessly glanced around the table (I didn't have the stomach to actually LOOK at the literature). Eventually the younger brother piped up and ask me if I was interesting in living forever. I had a hard time not throwing my head back and snorting in laughter. I said "sure, though it depends who I'm living with". The young guy hesitated so the older one jumped in with "in Jehovah's New Kingdom you'll be surrounded by righteous ones." Egads.

I just wanted to go, sorry I even stopped by. I get shivers being around JW's. Ech. "Well, okay, great, then I guess I'm going to live forever."

A startled look by both of the brothers standing behind the table. "Actually, Jehovah's Kingdom will only have a select few, the ones that follow his word and guidance," piped up the older one.

"Oh, well, then God knows if I'm worthy and I'll find out eventually if I get to stick around," and I tried to walk off. No such luck.

A desparate plea from the younger one (I was probably the first in days that stopped by the table) "But we can help you study the bible and increase your chances for living forever." Last time I checked this wasn't a lottery, okay?

My daughter was starting to get the "I'm bored" whine so I just said "Look, I was just curious to see what literature you have out here today. I saw an episode of Dateline a few weeks ago and have no desire to associate with a religion or organization which harbors child molestors." Finally, I got it out. I'm not one for confrontation, so I'm amazed I even said it at all.

Sputter, sputter, sputter. "Ma'am, I saw the show as well and I must tell you that those on the show can not be trusted as they are no longer considered Jehovah's Witnesses. We encourage all victims to report illegal situations to the authorities."

I wanted to scream. I'd read on here about the reactions others have had but until I heard it myself it was so hard to believe. "What if your daughter was raped by another brother, or molested by an elder and when she went to report it she was punished? What would you do? Do you not realize that if you stood by her and insisted the police know or the JW to be punished that you would be disfellowshipped? The women mentioned was disfellowshipped because she reported her abuser. How absurd! How dare you brush this off. I know for a fact through my own experience that victims are not encouraged to report things to authorities. They are DIScouraged. And they are treated like a criminal, especially if there is no other witness."

Neither one of them could say a damn thing. For once I had silenced a JW. Two even. Amazing.

I walked off all tingly and then started to giggle after a bit. All these years I've wanted to pretty much tell any and all JW's to fark off. I may not have approached them in the best of way, but at least I was able to do it in a decent manor. I hope I made them think, even if it's just for a minute.

I can't help but wonder if they'll give a little warning to all those sitting at the table in the future "watch out for the mom with a black and tan stroller." hehe

Alicia