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  Is Jesus the Creator?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  that's what the word says.

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  colossians 1:16. for by him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through him and for him..

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  Rivergang

  One thing at least remains obvious - this 1,500 year long argument is still no nearer to being resolved than it ever was.
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  Reddit thread - ‘Organization Finally Suggesting to Plan for Retirement’

  by LongHairGal in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this information is supposed to be in the upcoming march wt.

  (i don’t go on jw dot org).

  it would sound like they are hinting at a change in thinking.. in my opinion, any such change would be yet another slap in the face to faithful pimis along with those other recent changes.. there are so many heartfelt responses on that thread and a lot of justified anger.. don’t know what to say except that i’m so glad i never listened to the religion all those years ago.

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  LHG,

  From the author David Ignatius:

  ”Often, the biggest decisions we make in life aren’t really decisions at all. They are the product of habit and momentum - things that have been going on for long enough that that have built up their own speed and force, and have become difficult to stop or deflect.

  So you let them happen.

  A lot of marriages are like that, and career choices and decisions about where to go to college, or whether to have children, or where to live. We call them decisions, but they really aren’t.They come to us pre-made, the sum of so many previous events and determinations that they have have a weight which feels like a layer of time”.

  In short, we are not as free to make our own choices as some may have us believe!
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  They are running out of people to do their stuff.

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is the watchtower study article being studied today.

  so it’s the current new light!.

  what are the new qualifications to be an “elder-aka older man...and circuit overseer?.

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  Journeyman,

  Not a truer word spoken!

  Whatever disaster now follows is entirely of their own making, and their own stupid fault.
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  Reddit thread - ‘Organization Finally Suggesting to Plan for Retirement’

  by LongHairGal in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this information is supposed to be in the upcoming march wt.

  (i don’t go on jw dot org).

  it would sound like they are hinting at a change in thinking.. in my opinion, any such change would be yet another slap in the face to faithful pimis along with those other recent changes.. there are so many heartfelt responses on that thread and a lot of justified anger.. don’t know what to say except that i’m so glad i never listened to the religion all those years ago.

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  Elder Berry

  What you are describing is just a continuation of the old theme “Promise them a Pie in the Sky, so they will be content for now to have crap”.

  The problem with that idea is a thing called the internet, which makes it harder and harder to keep up that “Pie in the Sky” charade. (Particularly when it becomes obvious to all who make even a cursory search that the JWs have been waving around almost forever that same carrot on a stick).
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  My story of becoming a circuit overseer after Kin Suen visited our congregation.

  by ExCircuitOverseer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here is my story of becoming a missionary after having kin suen (pronounced “shin”) as my circuit overseer.

  my father wanted me to go to college, but since he wasn’t a witness, i knew he just didn’t understand how close we were to the end.

  i had actually become a circuit overseer!

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  Rivergang

  Ex Circuit Overseer,

  Out of curiosity, was your experience one of the “Road to Damascus” type - or was it more accumulative, over a longer period of time?
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  They are running out of people to do their stuff.

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is the watchtower study article being studied today.

  so it’s the current new light!.

  what are the new qualifications to be an “elder-aka older man...and circuit overseer?.

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  Didn't they do the same after the fallback of 1975? Appoint elders early when old timers realised the gig was up?

  There were instances of that when the "elder arrangement" was first implemented. Amongst the first group of elders to ever be appointed in our district (which happened during September-October 1972), there was one who was only 19, and at least one other who had attained the mature age of 21!

  As far as I can recall, though, these were "one-off" situations. By the mid to late 1970s, they made a particular point of only appointing those who were in their late-20s or older. (And used to look down their noses at the LDS "Elders", most of whom were barely in their twenties).
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  They are running out of people to do their stuff.

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is the watchtower study article being studied today.

  so it’s the current new light!.

  what are the new qualifications to be an “elder-aka older man...and circuit overseer?.

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  Rivergang

  Elders only in their early 20s - The very same thing they used to criticise the LDS for.
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  Maddison, WI Shool Shooting - 3 Dead

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  like the one in tennessee, this one in maddison, wi, was done be a female.

  the police chief points out that: .

  “yes, i don’t know whether [the shooter] was transgender or not, and quite frankly, i don’t think that’s even important.

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  freedom of the press is not something these Countries enjoy.

  Not according to the organisation, Journalists without Frontiers (an organisation much concerned with censorship of the media). Their experience has been quite different.

  https://rsf.org/en/2024-world-press-freedom-index-journalism-under-political-pressure

  Anyone who thinks that Britain is on a par with China when it comes to freedom of the press really ought to think again! Bloody Hell - the USA ranks lower on the World Press Freedom Index than does the UK.
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  Reddit thread - ‘Organization Finally Suggesting to Plan for Retirement’

  by LongHairGal in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this information is supposed to be in the upcoming march wt.

  (i don’t go on jw dot org).

  it would sound like they are hinting at a change in thinking.. in my opinion, any such change would be yet another slap in the face to faithful pimis along with those other recent changes.. there are so many heartfelt responses on that thread and a lot of justified anger.. don’t know what to say except that i’m so glad i never listened to the religion all those years ago.

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  Beth Sarim

  Absolutely!

  According to Raymond Franz in Crisis of Conscience, the then President of the WTS even admitted that.
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  Pidgin English

  by markweatherill in

  1. social
  2. humour

  https://www.jw.org/hwc.

  i just discovered this translation into 'hawai'i pidgin' and for some reason found it very amusing.

  they even dubbed the caleb and sophia cartoons into this dialect.. not because i look down on pidgin speakers in any way, more about the way translations like this are revealing and telling in unintended ways..

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  Rivergang

  Bribie,

  You have a PM