Salvation depends on: Obeying and being in total 100% agreement with whatever the governing body says the truth is currently, and denying that whatever they said the truth was last year was ever said, and believing that even quotes from WT that are 180 degrees from what is said this year was ever printed and are only lies by apostates.
FedUpJW
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Ever wonder how to be "saved" as a JW?
by sir82 ini was searching for something on the wt online library, and was struck by all the requirements a jw has in order to be "saved".. want to see a partial list?
all these found by searching for "salvation depends" on wol.
just do all 26 things, and you too can be saved!.
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COVID-19 - Would It Work to Allow People to Sign Away Rights for Treatment Like JW's Do for Blood?
by RubaDub inpeople want to get back to work, back to "normal" in many cases (whatever normal now means).
even trump is encouraging protesters in 3 states.. but with the covid-19 thing, this is not just a matter of a person taking a risk, as a person may do who smokes, takes illegal drugs or in other ways lives an unhealthy lifestyle.
in general, most (not all, since cost of insurance and public hospitals may be involved), but generally you are not putting the lives of others at risk.
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FedUpJW
If I put myself in danger, I am agreeing not to expect treatment.
And of course when smokers choose to put themselves at risk you would be fine if they refuse any treatment for lung cancer, right?
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New York Times: ‘People Would Be So Receptive Right Now, and We Can’t Knock on Doors.’
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/19/us/politics/coronavirus-jehovahs-witnesses.html.
the pandemic has put a stop to the activities of one of the nation’s most visible religious groups, jehovah’s witnesses.. read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/19/us/politics/coronavirus-jehovahs-witnesses.html.
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FedUpJW
I heard a couple days ago from a friend via email, "This is so exciting. A Bethel speaker just said that this pandemic is the soft start of the GT!"
So yes, the spin cycle is starting.
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2 Letters Arrived--English and Spanish!
by Atlantis in2020-04-15 english encouragement for elderly.
https://docdro.id/chmzmpj.
2020-04-17 spanish .
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FedUpJW
If JW's really want to be "no part" of the world, then how many will refuse their stimulus check and rely on Jehovah to provide for them?
None of them. They will yap on about how "it is Gee-HO'-Vuh who provided it." Just like they flap their gums about how wonderful the governing body are to provide the letter from Gee-HO'-Vuh about how to stay healthy through the COVID-19 season. Never mind they did nothing other than cut and paste what the government already had printed several weeks earlier!
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Do You Feel Your Rights Are Being Trampled On By Government Regarding Coronavirus?
by minimus ini support local and state and federal government’s power to safeguard the public.
i wonder is it getting to a point where we will be told we can’t go out anymore, can’t use your phone or computer anymore because of the viruses that we can get, etc.
are we prolonging this virus at all ?
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FedUpJW
I would rather die standing up for myself, than live kneeling for the government!
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MANUAL!--2020-04 SFL.
by Atlantis in2020-04-addendum letter.. https://docdro.id/n0hm6tg.
2020-04 shepherd the flock of god elder manual.
https://docdro.id/llechtz.
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FedUpJW
Isn't it easy to see what they consider important:
Yes it is. This was printed even before the "Table of Contents: To make a donation, please visit donate.jw.org.
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Disunited States of America?
by jwleaks inrecognizing that their states have one integrated regional economy, delaware governor john carney, new york governor andrew m. cuomo, new jersey governor phil murphy, connecticut governor ned lamont, pennsylvania governor tom wolf, and rhode island governor gina raimondo today announced the creation of a multi-state council to restore the economy and get people back to work.
this announcement builds on the states’ ongoing regional approach to combatting the covid-19 pandemic.. the coordinating group – comprised of one health expert, one economic development expert and the respective chief of staff from each state — will work together to develop a fully integrated regional framework to gradually lift the states’ stay at home orders while minimizing the risk of increased spread of the virus.. https://news.delaware.gov/2020/04/13/governor-carney-and-five-governors-announce-multi-state-council-to-get-people-back-to-work-and-restore-the-economy/.
meanwhile on the west coast:.
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FedUpJW
Strange that these governors are now being praised when just a couple weeks ago when Trump talked about reopening the country by Easter, even though the President hadn't reached a final decision on exactly when the government's guidelines would be relaxed to get the economy back up and running, he was condamned for his optimism.
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Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread
by Simon inthis topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.
latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.
the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.
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FedUpJW
I guess I am pretty dense. How, exactly, will testing be the answer? If I were to test negative today, be exposed to someone tomorrow who spreads it to me, then what? To my way of thinking testing would only genuinely help if EVERYONE got tested simultaneously, and then every single person with a positive test were placed under extremely strict house arrest with zero contact with the outside world, for however long it took to herd vaccinate every single person who tested negative. Somewhere, somehow, sometime, someone is going to get sick from this virus, and IMO that is just a fact of life.
And NO, I am NOT saying there is no concern or this is a hoax or any of that other garbage, so don't even go there!
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Circuit storehouse
by road to nowhere ingot more info.
donate canned food, stable things.
if there is a need go to family, friends, neighbors, food banks, government, then congregation, and next to last circuit.
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FedUpJW
They say the purpose is not just to know who has a need...but who has a SURPLUS!
My dad always said profanity is the sign of a weak mind trying to express itself forcefully. Well dad, my mind is weak today, and I say, "FUCK THEM!"
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Mind Numbing
by FedUpJW inreceived another email forward.
the doom-n-gloomers are sooo loving.
sending out cc: bulk emails with cut and paste government programs to "lovingly" help the "friends".
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@LHG
My thoughts exactly. They are throwing the "sheep" under the bus again. It should come as no surprise to anyone. I do have doubts that JW's will wake up. If anything it seems they are getting even more radical about this being "the end" and circling the wagons.