Posts by Scully

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Next Of Kin - your JW family will REFUSE BLOOD if you need it...

by talesin in

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friends

simon's thread about making a will reminded me of this issue, and the fact that many of you may not have given it much thought.. .

this is something that occurred to me many years ago - and i have a good friend listed as my next of kin (nok).

a few years ago, i had a situation where i was hemmorhaging, not capable of giving consent because i was heavily sedated, and the permission had to be signed.

Scully

Please make sure you have a discussion with your NOK (Next of Kin) or PoA-HC (Power of Attorney for Health Care) before just assigning that role to them. Talk about your wishes regarding blood transfusions and about organ donation. Also discuss the lengths you want the health care team to go to in the event that you will not survive the situation.

This is not a pleasant discussion. It can be very emotional, so make sure you set aside the time for it, and have the conversation with a clear mind. If they aren't aware of the JW-related issues with JW people who will most definitely assume that they have the right to be your NOK over the person of your selection and could make things difficult for your Person, they need to know this stuff - it's extremely important.

Writing a will is something that I procrastinate on, although I know it's something that needs doing.

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payback? bitterly upset....

by losingit in

i don't even know where to start.. more than anything, i'd like to say that i am not a woman of vengeance.

i am very much a forgiving person.

if you say "i'm sorry," and you're genuine, i can move on from it quickly and easily.

Scully

I want to respect their father, and his beliefs.

Why? Do either your children's father or his beliefs respect you? Clearly they don't respect you! And guess what... he and his belief system are going to poison your children's minds against you, and teach them to disrespect you as well.

So you made a "vow"... BIG DEAL. He made one too. The second - the very instant he started disrespecting you - he broke that vow. Because you don't disrespect someone you LOVE; someone you HONOUR; someone you CHERISH. His disrespect and contempt toward you releases you from your "vow". Don't let anyone send you on a guilt trip over the "vow" - you did your best, but did he? Or were you the one making nice when he was being an ass? Or covering his ass, or making excuses for him when he "forgot" stuff or behaved badly? Or putting on your very best Kingdom Smile™ at the Meetings™ when the two of you had an argument in the car on your way there?

The thing about the kind of payback you're proposing is that it only validates all the bullshit the WTS says about Apostates™ and solidifies the average dumbed-down JW's perception that you are the ENEMY. I agree that revenge fantasies can be absolutely delicious, but don't waste your time creating drama for these people - they aren't worth the energy. You need your energy for getting your kids out of that stupid cult, and getting custody away from your loser ex-husband, and starting a wonderful, successful JW-free life of your own. Don't let them get to you, because your future is going to be so much better without them. When you look back at your JW life 20 years from now, you are going to be light-years ahead of them while they will all still be stagnating in the cesspool-of-the-mind that is the JW belief system. Who cares if the Elders™ know it's crap - they're stupid enough to stay in it - do you know why??? Because outside of the JWs they will never amount to anything - and the WTS has them believing that if they Wait On Jehovah™ they'll be PRINCES among men. They are the big fish in the small pond - they'd never survive outside of it. Don't give them a second thought - they are of such little consequence in the big picture of your life - they only have those Privileges™ because they were born with a penis. BIG DEAL, right?

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Jehovahs Witnesses couple accused of neglecting child by feeding only fruits, vegetables and juices

by Sol Reform in

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/jehovahs-witnesses-couple-from-jupiter-accused-of-/nyhx3/.

posted: 2:50 p.m. tuesday, june 11, 2013. jehovah's witnesses couple accused of neglecting child by feeding only fruits, vegetables and juicescomment(31) 21 191 22 477relatedview larger louis, claudelview larger louis, vanessaby alexandra seltzerpalm beach post staff writer.

a suburban jupiter couple is in the county jail today after they refused to give their 19-month-old boy the nutrients he needed, causing him to end up in a local hospital's intensive care unit.claudel and vanessa louis face charges of neglect of a child with great bodily harm.palm beach county sheriff's deputies were called to st. mary's medical center in west palm beach on june 5 to investigate the child neglect case.. the 19-month-old boy was admitted to the hospital may 24 after he had trouble breathing.the boy's doctor told the investigating deputy that the boy was severely malnourished, underdeveloped and was in respiratory distress, according to a sheriff's probable-cause affidavit.

Scully

Aside from the glaring errors in stating JW beliefs - the WTS neither promotes nor prohibits vegetarian or vegan lifestyles, nor do they consider medical treatment (with the exception of blood transfusion) a measure of "last resort" - these parents are woefully misinformed about appropriate nutrition for their child and clearly mistrust the medical system available to them.

I hope local Child Protective Services finds a way to educate these folks about proper nutrition for their family.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of alternative practitioners who peddle "natural" stuff and terrify people with claims that the food available in supermarkets is poison. That's what this sounds like - an add-on to the already paranoid attitudes regarding doctors and hospitals and blood transfusions. It's so easy to get swept away by propaganda, especially if your critical thinking skills are minimal thanks to involvement with a high control belief system, and there are charlatans out there who see people like this coming and think nothing of taking advantage for their own gain.

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What about your vow to Jehovah?

by a watcher in

did you get baptized without being dedicated?.

why did you allow men to come between you and jehovah?.

why were you serving jehovah at all?

Scully

You can't make a vow to something that doesn't exist. Whatever "vow" I made, was made under duress (i.e., I would be destroyed at Armageddon™ in the future and would be ostracised in the present if I didn't), and furthermore, was led to that decision by fraudulent information by well-intentioned, though equally misinformed, individuals.

No judge would require an individual to continue with a vow made under those conditions. Marriages have been annuled for less.

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Scientists - need your help please, school project

by *lost* in

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friends

i need ideas for a simple school science project for my daughter.. it is for 11 year olds, so needs to be quick and easy.. can you give me some ideas for her.. much thanks..

Scully

The old volcano with baking soda and vinegar thing always makes a splash.

A couple of other ideas that use kitchen items would be

What is an emulsion? One clear container with oil and vinegar, maintaining their separation, even with shaking (like a salad dressing); then another container with the same amounts of oil and vinegar, and a packet of regular mustard (yep, mustard!). Add the mustard to the oil and vinegar and shake it up - the oil and vinegar can mix because the mustard helps form an emulsion.

What is surface tension? Again, you'll use a clear container with water in it and a small amount of oil to float on the surface. Add a drop of dishwashing liquid in the middle and watch the oil scoot away to the edges of the container. The soap changes the surface tension of the water so that the oil disperses. Another example would be where a paper clip (or a pin, if they are allowed at school) can be made to float on top of water. Or how water will form beads on a freshly waxed surface - use a white wax crayon and a small spray bottle to mist water - you'll get a great effect if you use a smooth plastic cup or a mirror and wax one half of the surface but not the other.

You can look up the definitions for the terms on wikipedia and give other examples of emulsions or discuss why surface tension is important.

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From Pioneer to Professor: My Story

by laverite in

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friends

i wanted to say hello.

i knew i was gay.

i wanted to study and learn about everything i could.

Scully

Hi La Vérité

Thanks for bumping your story so I could enjoy it all over again.

I wonder - given that your area of expertise is psychology - if you'd ever be inclined to write a book about how cults and other manipulative, exploitive groups, organizations or individuals operate in order to seduce people into being exploited. I'd certainly read it, because I have my own theories based in social psychology. Perhaps, too, it would be a way to incorporate your JW past into your present.

It was embarrassing for me, too, when I left the JWs in my 30s and started my nursing courses in college. I didn't want anyone to know about my JW past; so much so that I decided to use my middle and maiden names professionally, rather than the name I was known by to most JWs. It was hard to disclose because I didn't want to be perceived as weak-minded (how could anyone be so dumb to join a cult?), but it was a very pleasant surprise to me how well the information was received by my colleagues. I still use my "nom de plume" so to speak, but now that I have shared my JW past with colleagues, it is as an expert, not as a "victim" or "survivor". They come to me with questions on how to discuss certain issues with JW patients, and it has been quite successful.

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What kind of meals do you like to fix for a company?

by Iamallcool in

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friends

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Scully

It all depends on who the company is and whether I like them or not.

If I like you, then I make a big lasagna with garlic bread and salad. My go-to dessert recipe is apple strudel squares. I can make these a bit ahead of time so there's less clean up after dinner.

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GAME OF THRONES (Season 3)

by SophieG in

ok i cannot believe that no one has mentioned this series.

does anyone watch?

did you see sundays masterpiece and have you read the books?

Scully

Simon wrote:

I shouted at the TV and then cried .

Awww... I always knew you were a softie....

dough boy

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Help me in my quest to free my sister

by Ed Daly in

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friends

hi there everyone, looking for some advice on helping my sister who is studying the bible with a jehovahs witnesses to escape.

shes been studying for over a year now and attends meetings occasionally.

i have been looking for a way to help her for a while now and the answer fell into my lap last week, during her study last week she mentioned that her son was going to a birthday party.

Scully

Show her the scripture in Romans 14:5,6

One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord.

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Is The Current Watchtower Governing Body Guilty Of Child Abuse In Some Of Its Many Forms?

by frankiespeakin in

1. child labor laws, by making parent force their children out in corporation sponsored advertising campaigns and indoctination meetings.

2. making children subject to corporation sponsored disciplining and shunning.

3. allowing child molester's to go out on corporation sponsored advertising campaigns with unsuspecting parents and children putting them in harms way.

Scully

@hoser

That's exactly my point. They should not be hearing about sexual... ANYTHING at "CHURCH". It's totally inappropriate.

Personally, I think it's part of the package that appeals to molesters - children are exposed to words and discussion in an environment that is deemed to be generally "safe". It might pique their curiosity and they might research things on their own... and then all of a sudden there's a Brother™ who is interested in that kind of conversation.

My little sister was 16 when an Elder™ was partnered with her in Field Service™. While they were walking in a fairly remote area, out of earshot of everyone else, he proceeded to tell her how it was important to know how to put a condom on a guy and gave her instructions on how to do it correctly. He also said it was important to learn how to do oral sex correctly.

IN FREAKING FIELD SERVICE™!!!! It creeped her right out. However, because of the conditioning at the KH, where they give public talks about fornication, adultery and homosexuality, it didn't occur to her until later that he was totally out of line.

BTW, at some later point in time, this guy did make advances on my sister, and when she told my parents about it, they brushed it off as "Oh that's just so-and-so - he's harmless." Just like when another adult made an advance on me when I was around the same age.

It made me LIVID.