elders arranged a sort of informal visit by a more capable elder accompanied by another brother who is more qualified than me from academic background.
their purpose was to reason with me as a last resort to avoid a jc.. during the two-hour discussion, i could make my point clear to them: “i don’t think any one particular religion has the whole truth.
it may be existing as bits and piece in all religions and schools of thought.
"they want to reason with you so as to avoid a JC"
Which means, when translated, "they want to confirm your Apostate™ tendencies so they can announce that you are No Longer One of Jehovah's Witnesses™ at the very next Meeting™."
It seems they've done just that. By saying "This is a sign of apostasy", they've confirmed that they can go ahead and make the announcement. No JC required.
i ask this question for the following reason.
i was sitting at the kingdom hall thinking about all the rules, procedures, policies, teachings that each member must follow ......or else!.
at the watchtower study we are reminded of the paradise earth where we will all be the same and happy.
Was there *ever* joy in The Preaching Work™?
If there was, I'd never noticed it.
i was thinking about the jdub paradise this morning and all of the pictures in the watchtower company's literature illustrating the new system of things.. here is a partial list of what you see in the pictures:.
pet pandas, lions, elephants.
people always on a picnic with lots of beautiful fruits and vegetables.
The Paradise™ apparently doesn't exist immediately after Armageddon™. Remember there's a huge clean-up needed - we were reminded about this many times while I was growing up, and also that was why it was so important to learn how to do cleaning work. <eyeroll>
That seemed all fine and dandy until I was in my late 20s and had a couple of kids, and became kind of miffed about having to constantly clean up after everyone else. This Jezebel™ began to joke about how it would be nothing for Jehovah to wave his Almighty™ Hand and clean up his own damned mess, but no, the WTS made it abundantly clear that it was the people who Survived Armageddon™ who would be blessed with the Privilege™ of cleaning up Jehovah's final temper tantrum against his Enemies™.
F*ck that $h!t.
Apparently I have a Bad Attitude™.
hahahahaha
i just now went to get meat from my fridge to cook, took the meat out & shut the door as i shut the door i thought i saw a piece of rope in the six pack i had just opened & had removed 2 cans, already drunk 1.. open the door again & there i saw what i thought was a piece of rope, but i look a bit closer ...... shit it's a friggin snake, bugger i had only just taken two cans out wtf.. .
You threw away the rest of the beer?? What a waste, man!!
when in conversion, you sometimes get carried away and the talk becomes all about you.. then, you remember you're in a conversation, say you're sorry, and allow the other person to talk.
she goes on about what's happening in her life, you listen and ask some questions.
she tells you more and then shifts the dialogue back to you.
Thank them for sharing their story and give them a round of applause.
is this true?
is this really true?!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.
"the breeding act"???
So they seem to be saying that sexual relations are for breeding only now? Not just for married couples?? So Bethel couples are expected to refrain so as not to "breed"??
i think i read somewhere that if you have been inactive for ten years plus, the elders will not try to meet with you and corner you to get you back "in".
is that true?.
i just realized that mr. spiral and i haven't gone to meetings or reported time for over ten years.
They haven't bothered me (much), but I don't go poking the bear either, if you know what I mean.
Not even my JW relatives have made attempts to try to bring us back to the fold. Not once. It makes me wonder if they really don't believe the doctrines, or they don't give a $h!t about us enough to want us to be in Paradise™ with them. I have a few snappy retorts in my pocket if any JW relatives try to make a snide remark about atheism or creationism, but once I whip them out, they get Offended™ for insulting their beliefs (yet I'm not allowed to get offended when they insult my beliefs). That's a no-win scenario.
"my husbands religious beliefs are ruining our family" is the topic.
i"m not home when it airs on cbs in the afternoon so i watch a rerun on ch 55 here in nyc at 8pm.
i have my cable box all set to switch over at the appropriate time..
Hi Shirley
The wife did actually say that the Elders™ told the husband that he should shun her because she is an Apostate™ and that she is causing Spiritual Endangerment™ for him.
On another note:
I agree that CPS has cause to remove the children from the home. Robert is not the son's biological father, so why is he dealing with the bedwetting situation and not the mother? And why is the child so terrified about wetting the bed that he hides wet pyjamas and clothing, and goes to school smelling of urine? And why would he tell the school that Robert pushed him out the window, when he in fact jumped, if not to try to remove Robert from the home? People don't get reported to CPS 7 times for nothing. IMO, the child isn't lying, the acting out is a cry for help.
Tatiana (the mother) said she felt manipulated by Robert into joining the JWs. To me, there's something not right about Robert. There's no emotional response from him AT ALL.
BTW, I loved when Dr. Phil said that when a church tries to come between a husband and a wife and their children, IT'S TIME TO FIND ANOTHER CHURCH.
where do jws stand on the new medical marijuana?
i know they would df for use of it for recreation but if a dr in california gave it as a perscript, and it was legal to buy and use for medical use, has anyone ran into this yet?.
Funny how they get all freaked out over marijuana use for legitimate reasons because it "might" be criminal under federal regulations, but they turn a blind eye to the sexual abuse of children, which is clearly criminal under any jurisdictional and ethical code.
SMDH
all the money paid out by the watchtower to the child abuse law suits comes from the worldwide work fund or the contributions from the monies given for the kingdom hall real estate.
so,when we were actively involved donating funds for this purpose,and the watchtower used those funds for purposes other than the worldwide work are they not guilty of stealing funds that were donated for jehovah's kingdom.
can anything legal be done about this?
Actually, I think I'd prefer to have that money given to survivors of JW sexual abuse, domestic abuse etc. rather than see those bloated old bastards in the GB add another drop of water to their lovely retirement ranch in Upstate NY. They perverted justice for those survivors, and deserve the whirlwind they're reaping. I'd also rather see these settlements being paid out rather than having any monies being spent on luring vulnerable people into their wretched mind-control cult.
Does it bother me that rank and file JWs are the ones funding these settlements? In some respects, I think they're part of the problem, having provided financial support to the WT for more than the past century. If they'd only shut their wallets and chequebooks, the whole contemptible edifice would collapse.
