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JW Kids Leave the Organization: Facts

by Maximus in

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the october 1 watchtower 2001 features articles on training children "properly" and dealing with a "prodigal child.

the latest inside u.s. figures reveal that 86% of jw children leave the fold, with some 29% who eventually come back for reasons of family ties, most never "reaching out.

" that means over half leave permanently.

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Mother's letter

by silentlambs in

my wife recieved this letter from her mother thursday.

i thought i might share it at her request to see your opinions as to how she might respond.

i offer a slightly edited version of her letter, any suggestions?.

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The wonderful future Christian America.

by Norm in

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those of us who have frequented h2o and have otherwise encountered our fundie friends from the usa have many times been reminded of their strange arguments and ideas.

all of them seem to long back to biblical times and particularly the times of the old testament.

they have got the idea that those days were so wonderful when everybody was adhering to biblical morals, values and such.

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Any JW's take issue with R. Franz' writings?

by TR in

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just wondering if there is anything in r. franz' books that jw's might disagree with, assuming you feel free enough to read them.

let's talk.. tr.

edited by - tr on 8 march 2001 2:2:42

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So What Tipped You Out, Then?

by Englishman in

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can you remember that distinct moment in your life when you suddenly knew that your time as a jw was truly over?.

for me, that moment came several years after the removal of my privileges in the congregation when i admitted to having known my then fiance in a way that was not fitting for a ministerial servant.. i was quickly stripped of my 2 servants jobs, group study conducting, pioneer status, public talk giving and praying in the kh.

i was also forbidden to ever be alone with the lady concerned.. about 15 months later i was assigned a public talk, after 30 minutes i dried up.

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God's will or free will?

by thinker in

i've heard many people tell me about bible prophesy.

if the bible can predict future events then it stands to reason that those events are predetermined and man has no choices in this world.

think about all the choices you've made in your life and how different life for you would be if you had done things differently.

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The Poor JW Children

by larc in

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the children.

there are many things that could be changed, and even though i would never go back, i think there are some very basic changes they could make in their child rearing practices, simple changes that would make a big difference in their society.. 1. don't force small children to sit for two hours in a chair.. this was discussed at length on the thread about slapping children at the kingdom hall.. 2. don't bring children to meetings where the subject has to do with adult sexual practices.. 3. don't tell teenagers that they can't ask someone out for a date unless marriage is on their mind.. 4. don't tell them that they are not special, that they have to humble themselves and be like everyone else.. 5. don't tell them they have to get good grades through high school as a reflection of what jehovah has given them and then tell them they can't go to college when they graduate from high school at the top of their class.. 6. don't tell your wordly neighbors that you give your children presents all through the year, but not on their birthday, when they have never seen a special gift wrapped present in their life.. 7. don't expect a shy child to enjoy going from door to door and don't expect an extroverted, lively child to sit still at meetings.. 8. don't tell an inquiring child not to ask questions and don't tell them not to read interesting books.. 9. don't surprised if you don't change your ways that your children will leave you, even though they love you.