I think you lost the plot when you said " Proof " and " Book of Revelation ".
The book is more likely just a hated filled revenge letter against the Roman Empire that doesn't have an audience beyond first century Jewish Christians.
the jw idea that believers are destined either for heavenly life or for endless life on earth comes in for significant criticism by critics of various kinds.
even some groups, such as the christadelphians, who share belief in a future paradise earth, don’t share the view that some christians are destined for life in heaven.
yet there is surprisingly quite a lot of evidence in the bible for the existence of two distinct groups of believers.
I think you lost the plot when you said " Proof " and " Book of Revelation ".
The book is more likely just a hated filled revenge letter against the Roman Empire that doesn't have an audience beyond first century Jewish Christians.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ouye3e0fypc&t=183s&pp=yguzd2h5igkgzglzbglrzsblc2noyxrvbg9neq%3d%3d.
please take the time to watch.
i am not good with words but i have heard someone so eloquently explain how i feel about something.
A few months ago I was passing a witnessing cart on the street in a community I had no connection too. I stopped and started a brief convo.
Me- It seems to me that this religion is nothing but eschatology based nonsense.
JW- What is eschatology ? I have never heard that term before.
Me- Really ?
JW- Yes.
Me- Are you and Elder ?
JW- Yes.
Me- Shakes head and walks away.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ouye3e0fypc&t=183s&pp=yguzd2h5igkgzglzbglrzsblc2noyxrvbg9neq%3d%3d.
please take the time to watch.
i am not good with words but i have heard someone so eloquently explain how i feel about something.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oUYE3E0fyPc&t=183s&pp=ygUZd2h5IGkgZGlzbGlrZSBlc2NoYXRvbG9neQ%3D%3D
Please take the time to watch. I am not good with words but I have heard someone so eloquently explain how I feel about something. Really interesting stuff.
he will not pressure her to engage in sexual acts that make her feel uncomfortable, that are demeaning, or that bother her conscience..... the bible does not provide details as to what sexual practices between a husband and a wife should be considered clean or unclean.
a christian couple must make decisions that reflect their resolve to honor jehovah, to please each other, and to maintain a clean conscience.
generally speaking, a couple would not discuss with others this intimate aspect of their marriage..
I know a couple elders who can blow me.
wally, a youtuber from jw thoughts highlighted something that was said by kenneth cook jnr in the annual meeting.
he thinks it may be removed before they publish the agm.
i doubt we would see it in writing either.. part of kenneth's talk was about the changes regarding disfellowshipping and the clip from jw thoughts youtube shows him saying -.
I don't know how these people even take themselves seriously.
i was listening to a lunchtime call in radio show about jws and the personal experiences of being disfellowshiped, and a former elder called in saying he was disfellowshiped for asking about jws and their involvement in the un in the 1990s ,and he just said look it up.. thinking that it was a made up lie ,so i looked it up and it was true even a letter confirming it from the un itself and that led me here and to jwfacts and further research into the history and teachings of jw and walked out the door about 5 years ago.
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-The endless adoration of the Governing body. I swear it is the North Korea of religion.
-The things that were obviously " Identity markers " ( Christmas, Birthdays, Blood transfusions ) which really had no biblical restrictions. Look at us, we are different.
- The core foundation of the religion is eschatology based nonsense, not really the gospel message.
for jws who believe that jehovah had a hand in reviving the truth in the nineteenth century this is enough explanation for how jws managed to achieve a closer approximation to early christian beliefs and practices than other groups.
but is there an explanation for this phenomenon that doesn’t rely on supernatural intervention?
new testament scholar james dunn explains the difficulty of interpreting the biblical texts in this way:.
It is just eschatology based nonsense. I actually have more respect for bible scholars who admit they don't actually have all the answers but try not to be assholes to each other.
for jws who believe that jehovah had a hand in reviving the truth in the nineteenth century this is enough explanation for how jws managed to achieve a closer approximation to early christian beliefs and practices than other groups.
but is there an explanation for this phenomenon that doesn’t rely on supernatural intervention?
new testament scholar james dunn explains the difficulty of interpreting the biblical texts in this way:.
This board use to be a great resource for ex members.
for jws who believe that jehovah had a hand in reviving the truth in the nineteenth century this is enough explanation for how jws managed to achieve a closer approximation to early christian beliefs and practices than other groups.
but is there an explanation for this phenomenon that doesn’t rely on supernatural intervention?
new testament scholar james dunn explains the difficulty of interpreting the biblical texts in this way:.
Watchtower apologetics, Alt Right pundits, medical misinformation and conspiracy theorists.
It is sad what this board has become.
( or maybe I didn't actually say that, it is just a conspiracy ).
i find it amazing that the wtbts says that you should refuse blood, even if it could save your life.. look at the apostle paul.
he knew the injunctions of acts 15 - yet by his own admission in his letters to the corinthians admitted that he bought meat sacrificed to idols and ate it.
so would he have refused this meat if he were about to die of hunger?.
So if I am in the middle of a kidney dialysis and I have to shut the machine off because I have to go poop really really really bad, that means Jehovah with destroy me.
Its all in the bible, trust me. No need to fact check anything I am saying.
I am absolutely love to be fucking insane. I read old threads and the discussions form 15-20 years ago and ever since covid and this right wing algorithm , this place is just a sewer.