Posts by Swan

since i have found this forum i have been doing a lot of online looking, particularily spying on what the dubs have to say about all the negative attention they have been getting in the news of late and through the internet in forums such as this.

i did a quick search on msn communites and came across over 70 online jw communities.

one particular posting on one community (#1 rated jw community on msn if anyone desires to look it up) i read a message thread on depression.

Swan

Once again in an email, rather than a post to this board, I got a response from Mr. Timo Nentwig, whose email address is <[email protected]>.

Here is his original email to me:

From : Timo Nentwig <[email protected]>
Date : Sunday, September 22, 2002 6:20 AM
Subject: Jehovahs-Witness.com: Tenacious D - Fuck Her Gently
Hello!

I just read your posting in which you write: "Depression is also
situational and/or can result from cognitive dysfunction (in otherwords,
irrational thoughts and thinking patterns)."

Could you be a bit more precise on what you mean by "irrational thought
and thinking patterns" and what source you got this information from?

By the way are you member of JW?

Sincerly
Timo

To which I courteously replied in the post above and in this email referring to that post:

Good question. I have posted my reply on the board for you and the others to review.

Here is his reply:

From : Timo Nentwig <[email protected]>
Date : Thursday, September 26, 2002 1:54 PM
Subject: RE: My Reply Is Up Your intention was that Jehovah's Witnesses thinking is irrational,
fancifully and does make them sick because reality simply is different?

If so all religious people would have to become ill esp. shamans etc.

From the point of view of a medical doctor irrational and rational
thoughts both are actually chemistry in the brain.

I don't think that "irrational" thoughts make ill. But I might make you
ill I you force to think in a way that _you_ don't understand and think
of to be irrational, i.e. don't understanding your faith and don't
really believing in it but trying to make other people to not think so
about you - actually to psychologically rape yourself, you being the
raper and the raped one in one person. But in this case the only thing
which is "irrational" (and actually kind of sick) would be yourself.

From a theoretical point of view...

Mr. Nentwig,

Please address your replies, arguments, and baseless opinions to this board. I have explained what I meant by cognitive dysfunction and irrational thoughts and cited the source of Dr. Burns book like you asked me to in your previous email. Now please cite your source for this statement.

From the point of view of a medical doctor irrational and rational
thoughts both are actually chemistry in the brain.

If you have a problem with that, either take it up with Dr. Burns or do some real research to back up what are right now just your baseless opinions.

Please don't reply to me by email anymore. I find your emails cowardly, rude, and childish. Post all further replies to the board. All further emails to me by you will be deleted unread.

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Celebreties that were and are JWs

by hamptonite21 in

i am often curious what famous people have become or were jehovahs witness.

besides michael jackson!

and billy joels family (hence the song this is my life.......go ahead with your own life leave me alone) do you know any?.

Swan

Tara O'Hara from the German underground film "City of Lost Souls" (1983). I believe she was murdered (bludgeoned to death) shortly after this film was finished.

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What is wrong with a christian maturbating?

by evangelist in

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i know many christians and leader saying that doing this is not a sin because we need a relief.. god understands us that we need this if we are single, rather than have sex comitting adultery .. what do you think about this i would like some opinions please.

peace

Swan

Be sure you take notes about what you were thinking about while you were doing it. The elders will need to know all of the details of your fantasy as well.

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Twister! What Would You Do?

by Swan in

jw
friends

last week there was an f3 tornado that occurred in the vicinity of my brother's home in bloomington, indiana.

all weekend long and for the first part of this week i have waited to see if anyone would call and let me know they are okay.

last month my 18 year old niece died in a car accident in bloomington.

Swan

Sorry. I didn't make the connection to the game when I typed in the subject title.

That was a game we weren't allowed to play as kids, BTW. I didn't understand why my Mom was against it until I got a little older. I still thought it was rather innocuous though.

It would be interesting, with the current craze in nostalgic toys, to see if a bedspread colored like the twister mat would sell as a novelty item.

Tammy

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do you feel lucky?

by SPAZnik in

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friends

dealing with some really insecure people at work lately.

and something just occurred to me.. .

you & i are *the* most psychologically tuff people i know.. .

Swan

For 35 years I felt miserable and confused (although I pretended not to be). Now I just feel so incredibly lucky. I am a SURVIVOR!

Tammy

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Silentlambs marchers ... we salute you !

by Simon in

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friends

i'm sure everyone else is excited about the silentlambs march and hope that all those taking part have a trouble free journey, some good weather for it (that's the 'brit' in me talking) and most of all enjoy meeting up and doing something so positive.

we would love to have been there but unfortunately things didn't work out but we will be there in spirit like a great many others.

the march will really mark a turning point in jw history as for the first time the victims are not just lone voices fighting on their own but thanks largely to bill they now have some fantastic support, are much more organised and effective and have accomplished things and continue to deliver a clear message to the media which is being heard around the world.

Swan

Go get 'em!

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'Prepare for Banning' A HOAX! READ INSIDE

by ashitaka in

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my friend called me last night and said that his mother heard a letter read on monday night at her congregation meeting that said that the rank and file should be prepared to be banned, to go underground, and persecution is coming soon, that halls would be taken, and such.

that these things are definitely coming soon.

could this be the spin that the wt is heading towards.....instead of facing the hard issues, make the issues the boogeyman and shut down the halls, giving the elders ultimate power?

Swan

This control freak could have just as easily read a letter to drink this Koolaid being passed out! I hate this kind of sick perverted mind control crap! He's the one who should go underground, like in a pine box. It's JWs like this who I would like to visit after they die and dance on their graves. Evil bastard!

Tammy

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Tink's Surgery Tomorrow

by CC Ryder in

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hey everyone....just letting you know tink will be having her surgery finally at 7:00am tomorrow morning (9-26).

they originally said they could not do it till 10-3....but we got that changed right quick...tink broke red on them...(southern term for kickin some ass)...she's holding her own considering the time she has been in constant pain....never complained once....everything should go fine and she'll be home some time on friday...the doctor that is doing the surgery keeps his patients overnight even with orthoscopic surgery...i'll let ya'll know tomorrow how she's doing...i got it under control..i'm taking the rest of the week off to be with her.

cc

Swan

Tink! Good luck and hope you get well soon. And you know what the best thing about surgery is, don't you?

They give you the really good drugs after it's all over!

Tammy