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  Mormon woman, Kate Kelly, about to be excommunicated

  by designs in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the mormon leaders in virginia are deciding whether to excommunicate kate kelly for pushing for equal rights for mormon women in the church.

  she wants to remain a mormon whatever the outcome of the hearing.. 800-1000 mormons held a vigil in support of kate.. the group ordain women, mormons who want change in their church structure, are active in 17 countries pushing the male dominated leaders to make this important change.. kate kelly is herself an international human rights lawyer.. church leaders site jesus only choosing men in leadership positions as their foundational support.. those interviewed at the vigil said they want an atmosphere where they can at least have conversations openly about changes they would like to see made in the church..

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  Kate Kelly is herself an international human rights lawyer.

  See what happens when you let your members educate themselves.
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  Archbishop Didn't Know Sex With Children Was a Crime

  by Stealth in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  wtf .

  the st. louis archbishop embroiled in a sexual abuse scandal testified last month that he didnt know in the 1980s whether it was illegal for priests to have sex with children, according to a court deposition released monday.

  archbishop robert carlson, who was chancellor of the archdiocese of minneapolis and st. paul at the time, was deposed as part of a lawsuit against the twin cities archdiocese and the diocese of winona, minnesota.

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  WTF

  The St. Louis archbishop embroiled in a sexual abuse scandal testified last month that he didn’t know in the 1980s whether it was illegal for priests to have sex with children, according to a court deposition released Monday.

  Archbishop Robert Carlson, who was chancellor of the Archdiocese of Minneapolis and St. Paul at the time, was deposed as part of a lawsuit against the Twin Cities archdiocese and the Diocese of Winona, Minnesota.

  In a video released by the St. Paul law firm Jeff Anderson & Associates, the Catholic archbishop is asked whether he had known it was a crime for an adult to engage in sex with a child.

  “I’m not sure whether I knew it was a crime or not,” Carlson responded. “I understand today it’s a crime.”

  When asked when he first realized it was a crime for an adult — including priests — to have sex with a child, Carlson, 69, shook his head.

  “I don’t remember,” he testified.

  Source: http://www.nbcnews.com/#/news/religion/st-louis-archbishop-didnt-know-sex-children-was-crime-n127291
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  In your memory, what was the nicest day you had out in field service?

  by LoisLane looking for Superman in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for me, that happy day was in morro bay, calif. it was the fall, oct 1958 or 9. gorgeous weather.

  the sun was shining and the wind was coming off of the ocean.. at that time, morro bay was unassigned territory.. talesin on another thread was talking about a lovely day she had, going with her grandfather, talking with a mr languages.

  lol.

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  When I was 15 and the woman who answered the door was completly nakid. I was just glad it wasn't my turn to talk so I got to take it all in.

  Then there was that time I got sick and threw up in an elders new car before getting to the first door. Hey, I hold my parents I was sick and shouldn't go.
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  This is my first post

  by Make Lemonade in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i wanted to express appreciation to the members of this forum.

  there are resources here that are deep.

  like we heard from the stage, "what is your depth and breadth of bible knowledge?

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  Welcome ML. It's encouraging to know that there are some JW with integrity and care about victims more than saving face for the WT.
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  The List, by "Prominent Bethelite"

  by morloc in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i occasionally pop through here to catch up on the latest, but this time i'm going to pop my own post on here.. some of you internet oldsters may even remember this.

  my first experience on the internet regarding discussions about jehovah's witnesses and the watchtower took place on a now-obscure usenet group, before i eventually stumbled across hourglass2.. during those days, there was a poster who went by the name "prominent bethelite," an otherwise anonymous individual whom i remember most for an extensive, exhaustive compilation of date-oriented remarks, predictions, and expectations by the watchtower organization down through the decades of its history.. it became known as "the list" and it's definitely lengthy... but a fascination look at the abundance of errant statements made through the watchtower's history.. if you're curious, it's been available for a long time on hourglass2's site, and can be seen using the link provided below.. the list, compiled by prominent bethelite (1999).

  that's about it for this stop through here.

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  Thanks
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  In our local news... Jehovah's Witnesses LIED to Man with Brain injury

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://krqe.com/2014/05/08/family-of-man-with-brain-injury-fights-building-plan/.

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  https://www.facebook.com/savejimsview.

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  That guy should have some new roofing vents installed, like this guy did.....

  http://www.themiddlefinger.com/tag/house/
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  New to The Jehovahs Witness Faith and need some help

  by jnjburkett in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello there i am new to the faith and have been studying for about a month.

  i am very excited and hungry for the truth and have not missed a meeting or study since the memorial.

  we do about 2 bible studies a week.

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  One of my JW relatives was reported on by another JW for using the YMCA swimming pool. They had to stop going after pressure from the elders. This was 2 years ago.

  This is still the JW stand and has been at least as far back as the 1970s.
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  ...The WBT$ Theft of Kingdom Hall Bank Accounts and JW Elders...

  by OUTLAW in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  .. the new wbt$ donation arrangement/ jw kingdom hall bank account theft... is a very hot topic right now... the wbt$ is literally going to clean out kingdom hall bank accounts,filled with donations from jws... that theft is going to happen world wide..the wbt$ is going to steal from 7 million plus jw`s... .. we have jw elders here on jwn,that know whats going on... they "serve" in kingdom halls,they are "supposed" to be looking after the welfare of the average jw... they know there is a 4 page letter,only one page will be read to the congregation..the rest will be kept secret... they know the wbt$ is about to steal jw donations..on a world wide scale!!!...

  .. i would like to know what you active jw elders are going to do about this??!!...

  are you going to let "your" congregation know about the other 3 secret pages?...

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  The active ones I've spoken to have indicated that they see it as a loving arrangement.

  Of course they would. Does that absolve JW elders from doing the right thing taking a stand on this issue? As long as the wool remains pulled over the eyes of the flock.... its all good?

  Most who fall victim to a con don't realize it until it's to late.

  The WTBT$ is the Bernie Maddoff of religion.

  Unfortuanatly many JW elders are just agents for the Watchtower. They are loyal to the GB not the flock they claim to protect.

  It's really sad to see good trusting people getting ripped off by these criminals. It's even sadder that elders who are awake to TTATT stand by and say nothing.
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  I be a walkin......

  by out4good3 in

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  2. friends

  across that stage tommorrow dressed in graduate garb picking up a masters degree.. .

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  Well done!
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  Letter to BOE: Adjustment in process for appointing elders and ministerial servants

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello, you read it here first!.

  governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  to all congregations.

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  This could also be related to the pedo problem. If the legal department wants to do a background check on every recommendation but don't want this type of news to reach down to the congregation level where they would be admitting that they have a pedo problem while trying to protect their liability it would make perfect sense to limit the number of people in the know about this type of proceedure change.

  We have seen the letter sent to congregations. What about proceedure changes for the COs? Do we know about those?

  By moving this to the CO level who would work directly with legal on background checks they could do a better job of minimizing liability while at the same time keeping the lid on the pedo problem at the congregation level.