Posts by Duran

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If the UN fails, what do JWs have prepared?

by Anony Mous in

i was listening to a podcast about the current geopolitical situation, apparently the un has gone so far off the reservation being controlled by and trying to align themselves with anti-west values, a number of countries is attempting to kick israel out of the un because it is defending itself against iran.. off course, many african nations, some middle eastern, china and russia and a few european nations are all in some amalgamated economic league.

if the vote happens while biden is still president, it’s unlikely, given the election, the party is willing to throw their anti-semitic base under the bus and wouldn’t veto it, hence why these people are considering doing this now and china/russia would go along just to create some mayhem.

the un weeks ago voted to hand over a significant part of jerusalem to an unspecified state of palestine, this likewise went unopposed by the biden-harris administration.. if this happens, given the outcome of the next election, the us will almost certainly have to abandon and disband the un.

Duran

but they already used that explanation for the League of Nations, which, like the UN was a complete failure.

The UN is not a failure, it will do what it was created to do when the time comes for it to be empowered. (If the Bible is false then I guess don't hold your breath for that to ever happen but if the UN does get empowered by the nations, then perhaps there is truth to this.)

The WTS lies about being appointed in 1919 (therefore tells lies to arrive at 1919) in order to have people believe that so they will choose to be within that religion and not others.

It's basically, 607>>> 2,520 years later>Oct 1914>3 1/2 years cleansed>April 1918>appointed in 1919 due to the cleansing that supposedly took place.

The WTS has used what they refer to as 'apostate' sites to get the correct understandings as the years have gone by and then they make changes to incorporate those understandings when they see world events lining up with what the 'apostates' have said. The WTS/GB makes it look as if they are the ones with the insight on these changes.

The WTS/GB claiming now that the UN will get (future) its power from the nation's first before the turning on BTG, is correct according to the Bible.

What they fail to state at this point is that when that power is given that that corresponds with the 42 months. They can't admit to that right now because that will show that the 42 months were not Oct 1914 - April 1918, therefore no cause for being appointed in 1919.

They also fail to outright state at this time that the reason the 'nations' will give the UN power is because of WW3 (4 horsemen). They of course as part of their lies claim that the 4 horsemen have been riding since 1914 (WW1). But on JW dot org from time to time they have been introducing that WW3 is coming. Again, not because of their great insightfulness but because of 'apostates' and actual current world events, that they cannot ignore.

WTS/GB's only goal is to stay together 'as is' until the outbreak of WW3, when at that point it won't matter any longer.

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BABYLON THE GREAT IS NOT FALLING ANYMORE? (NEW LIGHT FROM THE ANNUAL MEETING)

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/rsbfa_7lqv4?si=muuxmgtll1n1ifad.

the watchtower’s babylon the great: a shrinking reality?.

so this latest annual meeting introduced a new idea about babylon the great, and here is the part from geoffrey jackson's talk we real need to dig in and consider it's ramifications..... so you’ve got to hand it to them; they know how to keep things interesting with their ever-evolving interpretations and, of course, those classic "adjustments" in understanding.

Duran

In the chronology of Revelation, doesn't Babylon the Great have to fall before all the other things take place?
Sooooo, New Light says BtG has not yet fallen. So what's the freaking hurry? Lots of stuff to take place before worrying about the GT.

The '4 horsemen' (WW3) have to come first.

Then as a result of that, the 10 kings give their power to the beast. That time period is the GT. It is during that time that the 10 kings and the beast turn on BTG.

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Does maths prove the bible is wrong?

by joey jojo in

there might be a few that find this post boring, because, you know - its maths.. i like maths but im not a mathematician or condsider myself any type of expert on the subject.. there is a branch of maths called propositional logic that is used widely in computers and computer programming that allows computers to make decisions based on certain conditions.

for example: if a condition exists, then do something.

like: if the a button is pressed, then the letter a will appear on the screen.

Duran

Gen 1:11: God creates vegetation on day 3. The sun isnt created until day 4. This statement, taken at face value cannot be true. That sounds like a contradiction to me.

[1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.2 Now the earth was formless and desolate, and there was darkness upon the surface of the watery deep, and God’s active force was moving about over the surface of the waters.3 And God said: “Let there be light.” Then there was light. 4 After that God saw that the light was good, and God began to divide the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, but the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, a first day.]

[9 Then God said: “Let the waters under the heavens be collected together into one place, and let the dry land appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry land Earth, but the collecting of the waters, he called Seas. And God saw that it was good. 11 Then God said: “Let the earth cause grass to sprout, seed-bearing plants and fruit trees according to their kinds, yielding fruit along with seed on the earth.” And it was so. 12 And the earth began to produce grass, seed-bearing plants and trees yielding fruit along with seed, according to their kinds. Then God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening and there was morning, a third day. 14 Then God said: “Let there be luminaries in the expanse of the heavens to make a division between the day and the night, and they will serve as signs for seasons and for days and years. 15 They will serve as luminaries in the expanse of the heavens to shine upon the earth.” And it was so. 16 And God went on to make the two great luminaries, the greater luminary for dominating the day and the lesser luminary for dominating the night, and also the stars. 17 Thus God put them in the expanse of the heavens to shine upon the earth 18 and to dominate by day and by night and to make a division between the light and the darkness. Then God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening and there was morning, a fourth day.]

The Hebrew word rendered “make” in Ge 1 verse 16 is not the same as the word for “create” used in Genesis 1:1, 21, 27 chapter 1, verses 1, 21, and 27. “The heavens” that included the luminaries were created long before the “first day” even began. But their light did not reach the surface of the earth. On the first day, “there came to be light” because diffused light penetrated the cloud layers and became visible on the earth. The rotating earth thus began to have alternating day and night. (Genesis 1:1-3, 5) The sources of that light still remained invisible from the earth. During the fourth creative period, however, a notable change took place. The sun, the moon, and the stars were now made “to shine upon the earth.” (Genesis 1:17) “God proceeded to make” them in that they could now be seen from the earth.

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1/25 WT: Oral and Anal sex are a go - if she's ok with it

by neat blue dog in

he will not pressure her to engage in sexual acts that make her feel uncomfortable, that are demeaning, or that bother her conscience..... the bible does not provide details as to what sexual practices between a husband and a wife should be considered clean or unclean.

a christian couple must make decisions that reflect their resolve to honor jehovah, to please each other, and to maintain a clean conscience.

generally speaking, a couple would not discuss with others this intimate aspect of their marriage..

Duran

some women have a higher and stronger sex drive than they do and if given the chance she could 'wring her husband out like a washtowel' and come right back for more.

LOL...a scene from 'the heartbreak kid' comes to mind where Eddie (Ben Stiller) ends up traumatized in a chair after sex with Lila. I wish I could find that clip on YOUTUBE.

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I just made a video that every JW should see.

by Kosonen in

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friends

i just made a video every jw should see.

the aim of this video is to help jehovah's witnesses be more open to constructive critisism, especially from their own members, that are swiftly excommunicated /disfellowshipped/ removed from the congregation if they dare to point out their religion's flaws concerning doctrine and practises, even when there is scriptural evidence.

i have first hand experience of that.. https://youtu.be/71zcv7lux3g.

Duran

Yep, joined 4 days ago and now already liking Richard Simmons younger long lost Finnish brother...seems like EP/FTM.

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JWN, 23 years posting Blondie

by blondie in

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can i call you friends, i think so after 23 years posting here.

i am dismayed how jwn is being "dominated" or taken over by a few posters, peppering the comments.

in the past, the admin did not approve of this and did remove some posters from jwn.

Duran

No one lied to you. Just because a writer in the past had more faith of expectation than actually happened, does not make it a lie.
Lie -
1 - to make an untrue statement with intent to deceive
2 - to create a false or misleading impression
The writers in the past did neither to create a lie.

[13 And the word of Jehovah again came to me, saying: 2 “Son of man, prophesy against the prophets of Israel, and say to those who fabricate their own prophecies, ‘Hear the word of Jehovah. 3 This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: “Woe to the stupid prophets, who follow their own spirit, when they have seen nothing! 4 O Israel, your prophets have become like foxes among the ruins. 5 You will not go to the broken places in the stone walls to rebuild them for the house of Israel, so that Israel may keep standing in the battle in the day of Jehovah.” 6 “They have seen false visions and foretold a lie, those who are saying, ‘The word of Jehovah is,’ when Jehovah himself has not sent them, and they have waited for their word to come true. 7 Is it not a false vision that you have seen and a lie that you have foretold when you say, ‘The word of Jehovah is,’ when I have not said anything?”’8 “‘Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: “‘Because you have spoken what is false and your visions are a lie, I am against you,’ declares the Sovereign Lord Jehovah.” 9 My hand is against the prophets whose visions are false and who foretell a lie. They will not be among the people with whom I confide; nor will they be written in the registry of the house of Israel; nor will they return to the land of Israel; and you will have to know that I am the Sovereign Lord Jehovah. 10 All of this is because they have led my people astray by saying, “There is peace!” when there is no peace. When a flimsy partition wall is built, they are plastering it with whitewash.’]

Thursday, October 10
Happy is that slave if his master . . . finds him doing so!—Matt. 24:46.
Jesus foretold that during the time of the end, he would appoint a “faithful and discreet slave” to provide spiritual food. (Matt. 24:45) This has proved to be the case. Our overseer has used a small group of anointed men to provide God’s people and interested ones with spiritual “food at the proper time.” These men do not view themselves as masters over the faith of others. (2 Cor. 1:24) Instead, they recognize that Jesus Christ is the “leader and commander” of his people. (Isa. 55:4) Since 1919 the faithful slave has prepared a variety of publications that have given newly interested ones their first taste of nourishing spiritual food. In 1921 the slave prepared the book The Harp of God to help interested ones to learn basic Bible teachings. As times changed, additional publications were provided. Which publication helped you to come to know and love our heavenly Father? w22.07 10 ¶9-10
Examining the Scriptures Daily—2024

It is a LIE to say they were appointed in 1919 to be the F&DS. They have created false/untrue statements/teachings in order to deceive/mislead people to believe the LIE that they were appointed in 1919.

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1/25 WT: Oral and Anal sex are a go - if she's ok with it

by neat blue dog in

he will not pressure her to engage in sexual acts that make her feel uncomfortable, that are demeaning, or that bother her conscience..... the bible does not provide details as to what sexual practices between a husband and a wife should be considered clean or unclean.

a christian couple must make decisions that reflect their resolve to honor jehovah, to please each other, and to maintain a clean conscience.

generally speaking, a couple would not discuss with others this intimate aspect of their marriage..

Duran

Do you think a Chihuahua lives longer than a German Sheperd because it is physically and mentally stronger.....

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1/25 WT: Oral and Anal sex are a go - if she's ok with it

by neat blue dog in

he will not pressure her to engage in sexual acts that make her feel uncomfortable, that are demeaning, or that bother her conscience..... the bible does not provide details as to what sexual practices between a husband and a wife should be considered clean or unclean.

a christian couple must make decisions that reflect their resolve to honor jehovah, to please each other, and to maintain a clean conscience.

generally speaking, a couple would not discuss with others this intimate aspect of their marriage..

Duran

In the 21st century ~~we know better~~, women live longer than men, that's physical and mental strength, just for starters.

LOL!

A Chihuahua lives longer than a German Sheperd.

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1/25 WT: Oral and Anal sex are a go - if she's ok with it

by neat blue dog in

he will not pressure her to engage in sexual acts that make her feel uncomfortable, that are demeaning, or that bother her conscience..... the bible does not provide details as to what sexual practices between a husband and a wife should be considered clean or unclean.

a christian couple must make decisions that reflect their resolve to honor jehovah, to please each other, and to maintain a clean conscience.

generally speaking, a couple would not discuss with others this intimate aspect of their marriage..

Duran

kept my mouth shut

so, no oral I'm guessing?

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JWN, 23 years posting Blondie

by blondie in

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friends

can i call you friends, i think so after 23 years posting here.

i am dismayed how jwn is being "dominated" or taken over by a few posters, peppering the comments.

in the past, the admin did not approve of this and did remove some posters from jwn.

Duran

Some do promote their own religious beliefs

I know and as I said, 'I am not advocating for promoting/evangelizing a particular religious point of view here'.

But as I also said: 'It seems to be a confusing fine line here.'

No where on the main page do I see the word 'atheist' and that you must be one/share their views.

On the main page it says: 'Discussion Forum' and 'a friendly, tolerant and informative environment'

and:

Be nice
We're a global community of people from many different cultures and backgrounds. Not everyone is going to share the same beliefs or opinions but everyone has the right to feel comfortable using and visiting the site.

So, if I have a belief or opinion about the Bible, I should be comfortable sharing it while at the same time not pushing it to the point that I am right therefore you should believe me.

At the same time an atheist should by all means share why they don't believe but not to the point that because they have come to that conclusion that they are right, and all believers are fools for their faith.