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  Help Me To See DEAD PEOPLE! Please!

  by TR in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since i'm not a 'hovah no more, i thought i'd be beseiged by demons.

  anyhoo, i need help to experience those lowly cohorts o' satan.

  i'm getting damn sick and tired of not ever having experienced anything of the paranormal.. perhaps one way this can be explained is by the resistance one has to electricity.

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  TR,

  I've never seen anything remotely paranormal either. Have you tried voodoo or devil worshipping? I'd be interested to know if you saw anything paranormal then, not that I want you to do anything you don't want to for the sake of my curiosity.
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  Disassociation?

  by Sunflower1982 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi people!

  i was wondering if you all could take a moment to give me some advice.... since leaving my congregation and regaining clarity, i have been contemplating disassociating myself.

  i know it seems like a silly thing to fret about, but i think disassociation might give me the closure ive been looking for.

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  Sunflower,

  Lots and lots of good advice here, listen to what everyone is telling you. One of my very first posts was a thread just like this one. I too wanted to DA myself desperately a couple of months ago.

  I know it is hard dealing with all the bull, I understand it completely, I've been totally frustrated with it myself. I didn't write the DA letter I wanted to write a couple of months ago and even though at times I thought I couldn't take all the hiding and secrecy anymore, I am glad I didn't and haven't written that DA letter. I have since read up a lot more and learned more and have a better and clearer understanding of many things. I think it would have been a mistake for me to write it. I have my husband and his family to think about, if I DA myself my opportunity to get them out will be gone maybe forever. So as hard as it is, I continue just being inactive. Through the very helpful and kind advice of others here who have taken the time to email me and help me, I have been able to come up with ideas to keep the elders and everyone mostly away. You can do the same. I know right now all you want is to be left alone to live your life without having to hide anything or worry about what you do when or with whom. If I was single and didn't have my husband and his family to think about I would write the DA letter just to have closure. Everyone's situation is different.

  The one thing I would like to say is that whatever you decide to do, please think about it carefully before you do. DAing yourself could make you even more miserable than you already are being inactive. Weigh the pros and cons carefully please. Unfortunately and sadly, there usually are never any easy choices when leaving the organization.
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  WOW!!! I scored BIG at the Donut Shop!

  by LDH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well i took the little crumb-snatcher for a ride in the stroller this morning.

  usually i meander over by the college with all of its big, shady trees.. well, satan himself musta been with me this morning cause i got a hankering for a donut!

  i eat maybe 4 donuts a year, not my thing..... anyhow, i decide to turn for the donut shop where i choose my sin, an eclair covered in chocolate..... i turn to look at the little stack of reading material and what do i see?.

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  Lisa, you're hilarious!

  Amazing, You are so right on the money!

  Saltiest, You go girl!
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  Another reason NOT to live behind the Baptists...

  by Princess in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i hate the baptist church behind our house.

  they are loud and obnoxious in the summer.

  their youth group meets on tuesday evenings and more than once my husband has had to go over and ask them to be quiet.

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  Or offer them a little alcoholic beverage as they walk through your yard while you're having the dancing party. :P What else can't Baptists do? Do everything they can't as they walk past your yard... hehe...
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  How to get someone out?

  by Hyghlandyr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am seeking information on stories of those who have assisted relatives or friends out of the organization.

  particularly i would like books, or websites, or personal experiences, suggestions on step by step methods, to carefully present ideas to those who are staunchly pro jw, without alienating them further.

  i am especially interested in situations in which a df person was able to finally break down the barriers.

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  I'm already sleeping with him butalbee and I can't kill him, he's my husband... hehe
  Got anything else?

  I always enjoy reading your posts by the way, you help me smile everyday. Just thought I'd let you know.
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  How to get someone out?

  by Hyghlandyr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am seeking information on stories of those who have assisted relatives or friends out of the organization.

  particularly i would like books, or websites, or personal experiences, suggestions on step by step methods, to carefully present ideas to those who are staunchly pro jw, without alienating them further.

  i am especially interested in situations in which a df person was able to finally break down the barriers.

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  Hyghlandyr,

  I'm in the same boat! Desperately looking for help, maybe we can swap ideas when something works?

  Dungbeetle,

  I've read and re-read those pages and they are not helping all that much. I think maybe that is why Hyghlandyr was asking for more info. and yes maybe even exact page numbers. Not because we are lazy but because we are looking for something specific to our situation and haven't found it in any literature yet. I do realize I will not find anything exact for my situation but I am looking for something more and maybe Hyghlandyr is too.

  You are obviously an old timer at this and I can see how all us newbies could make life frustrating for you but you were where we are now once too. Please be patient with us.

  JT, Sirona, Pathofthorns,

  Thanks for all the great advice, we need it badly, at least I do. Thank a million, it helps!

  Star
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  Joan Baez article in NY Times

  by belbab in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a while ago there was discussion on this board about people who hear voices within their heads.

  some of the posts stated that this was a sign of mental illness, others said a sign of inspiration.

  for me, joan baez is one of the sanest people on the planet.. there is an article in today's ny times about the folk singer joan baez.

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  No offense but it sounds like multiple personalities to me, but what do I know...
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  Oprah and My Mother

  by teenyuck in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my mother just called...as she does 2-4 times a week to tell me that "you must watch oprah!

  " my mother is in chicago, where oprah is broadcast live.

  i live in est where oprah is on in the afternoon.

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  Puffsrule,

  I heard Oprah and Phil both hate JWs. Of course if you want to be truthful you'd have to confirm this first but I think it's true and if it is, maybe that would get her to lighten up. Just a thought.
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  Lies! Lies! Lies?

  by Ephanyminitas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  exactly what has the society outright lied about?

  i mean stuff that can be proven.

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  Pathofthorns,

  I hope you are requesting this information for your own personal research and not to convince a fellow Witness. You will NOT be able to convince them by showing them any sort of evidence and you will NOT be able to justify any position that is contrary to what they have been tought.

  What's your take on helping loved ones get out of the borg then?
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  Lies! Lies! Lies?

  by Ephanyminitas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  exactly what has the society outright lied about?

  i mean stuff that can be proven.

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  TheStar

  What kind of quetions is that E? You know better than that.