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Guilty as Charged... I confess....

by AGuest in

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to the "inquisition" of these days... that is on jw.com... may you have peace.. because there seems to be a 'movement' to 'expose' me as false, and judge and condemn me as a 'jezebel' and more... i would hereby like to confess my 'sins' and 'errors'... and repent my actions/inactions... before you... and all onlookers... if you will permit me.

thank you.. i confess... that i am a servant to the household of god, israel, and a slave of christ, by means of an anointing with holy spirit, which i received directly from the person of my lord, the son of god, jaheshua mischajah.. i confess... that i have been given the 'free gift' of holy spirit, in the form of hearing spirits, discerning inspired utterances, so that i hear not only the voice of my lord, the but voices of various spirits, so i am able to relate to others that hear, as well as those that do not hear... what the spirit says to the congregation.. i confess... that i have been freely given other 'gifts' of that same spirit, which gifts manifest themselves in me in various ways and which gifts i have not attempted to hide from anyone... man... or god.. i confess... that i have a love for my father and my lord to such an extent that i would subject myself to public humiliation, before all men, bear reproach now... and endure a 'torture stake' for the glory that awaits me, which glory i have nought but faith in, because i have heard of its certainty... and received my 'sealing'... directly from the one the promised such glory, my lord, the son of god, jaheshua mishajah.. i confess... that i have agreed to 'repay' my lord for his love and kindness... the undeserved kindness granted me... in the only way that i can... by obeying his voice and going to the household of god, those that go with them, and any others who are 'thirsting' and 'wishing'... and telling them that the same gifts and glories undeservedly afforded me... can be granted to them as well.. i confess... that as a true servant to the household of god, by means of undeserved kindness, i have been granted to know the fruit of my father's spirit that is love... for all of mankind... including my enemies.

a love such it compels me to tell what i hear to those who wish to hear of it, even at risk to my own spirit... whether they hear... or they refrain.. i confess... that contrary to what is 'usual' among so-called professed 'christians' and 'anointed', i have not sought to compel people to follow me, or to join any church, religion or other institution of 'theology', and will not, but instead, have asked and spoken only that any who 'hear'... and any who wish to hear... hear... and follow the voice of the fine shepherd, my lord, the son of god, jaheshua mischajah.... i repent... that i am but mere flesh and blood, a woman, a 'foolish thing' and 'weaker vessel', so that i do not always have the strength to stand against the opposition facing me, although i have wished no harm, no evil, no malice toward any.. i repent... that at times my forehead is not as hard as flint, and my heart is not so protected so as not to feel fright when facing off with my adversary and his agents.. i repent... that i do not possess in me the gifts of the spirit that grant miracles, such that those who do not believe can have the 'scales' removed from their eyes so as to see the things 'unseen', things almost too glorious for me to utter... with their own eyes... rather than simply ask for and be granted the 'free gift' of holy spirit and see for themselves.... i repent... that i do not possess in me the 'perfect' love that would move me to not feel hurt and pain when derided and ridiculed, but be able to say to my father, as did my lord, "forgive them father, for they do not know what they do.

thewiz

AGuest

are you or were you ever a JW? Are you a man or a women?

I don't know how you are with humor. But I met Jesus several times. One time walking around Meshantticut lake in Cranston RI. Roger Williams park, in Providence, RI and at his house.

But seriously...
Remember the old ?Russian? story about the show maker. The shoe maker had an apprentice I believe. He did things for other people and gave up many things for people. That's how I meet Jesus.

I sat at a table with a man last year, who had been disfellowshipped @1972,73 for smoking. I did not fear being seated nor seen with him. Although, I don't approve of smoking. He was a friend.

This now homeless man was sitting at a table eating. I asked him if I could sit down with him. He said "It's a free country."

I said, "do you remember who I am?"

He said. "no"

I said "remember the house you used to go to where you were always welcome. You would play our piano and we would all join in?"

To this day he is the best piano player I had ever met personally and called friend.

He started to remember.

I then thanked him for all the memories he gave me, ones that I would never forget, ones that I would bring to my grave. Ones that made me, in part who and what I am today. Some of the tunes you played I now play for my kids. -(albeit, very poorly)

He was elated.

That's how Jesus talks to me, and that's how I talk to Jesus.

I don't hear voices and I don't speak in tongues. you might want to see see a psychiatrists

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URGENT , Got meeting tonight(Beards)

by StifflersErSlayersBrother in

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anyone got any good information as to why dubs dont like beards?

in 18 years, i have yet to understand why.

if its brought up tonight by anyone, what should i say?

thewiz

My brother-in-law, a Bethel-yike, says brothers in Sweden or was it Switzerland have beards. The brother who plays Noah, in the VCR tape from the WTBS has a real beard.

It is not that beards are wrong. Although in early sketches of Jesus in the WT & A! he was clean shaven.

One of the reasons, is that the stigma of having a beard made you a kind of rebel or a Hells-Angel trouble maker, slovenly, etc. in this country many times that is the association many people conjure up in there minds -it creates a loose association with that kind of image.
I'm not talking about JW thinking either. The company EDS has/had that policy for a long time; they didn't regard it as proper grooming. Although that association appears to be dying out, I'm sure the WTBS will keep the no beards policy for some time to come.

Sometime in the mid late 70's the WTBS lifted it's restriction on beards, but then the bros instead of having a full beard had fu-man-chews, goaties, mutton-chops, mutton-chops and goatees, side-burns. It really did start to look like the ECMF and Hell's Angels. BTY ECMNF stood/stands for East Coast Motorcycle Fedration or as some used to really call it East Coast Mother F****er's

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SouthPark and it's close resemblance to...

by MrMoe in

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before i go on vacation - thought i would leave you all with a little project.

the following are some of my favorite characters from south park.

who do these people remind you of?

thewiz

Although I'm not a regular watcher of the show. I prefer to be the Marlon Brando like character from the Island of Dr. Moreau. (I'm getting fatter and balder by the day, not to mention his brillant techincal skills). Can't find an image so I can't provide the link I'm afraid.

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Why?

by rocket7001 in

i am thinking about becoming a jehovas witness.

i saw on this one show where two jws got in a car accident and needed blood but wouldn't take it.

a jw pastor, i think got up and said that our creator would be greatly offended by this practice.

thewiz

peterstride -good points. you bring up things I haven't thought about.

Yeah, I know I'm going to sound like a parrot. "Polly want a truth book?" -but to every turn there is a screw!

Ge 9:4-6 Begins to develop the sanctity of blood. It's not the blood itself that is wrong, it's what it represents. The blood represents an animal or persons life. Therefore, it is an outward expression of this appreciation, that an individual would avoid misusing it.

It is so important that if a person or even an animal were to spill the blood of an innocent person than the blood of guilty was to be paid as retribution/compensation/payment for that which was lost.

Now, naturally every drop of blood cannot possibly be drained from an animal. Talk about a rare steak. Is it juice or is it blood? Obviously the greater content is blood. It is the act or manner in which a person regards the santity of blood and recognizes God's proabition on the mis-use of blood and the reasons for it, that is the point!

So great is it's value, that his son Christ Jesus only had to pour out his blood once, for all time. It's what it means. Not it's physical components.

Further laws are elaborated upon in the book of Le. one is 17:14

This is reaffirmed and obligated by christians in the decision at Acts 15:28,29 and 21:5. It is out of respect for the life giver that only being Jehovah.

The reason why vaccines were questioned, is because the agents that make innoculation possible are/were CULTURED in blood. After the blood is seperated what you have left is the live or dead viruses that can be used to kick start a persons immune system to create antibodies against the invaders. What particibles of blood are left in the serum is miniscule. However, I don't think it can be entirley removed, much like the rare steak analogy.

I think Heb. 6:6 can be used to allude to this further. It was because Jesus' blood was poured out that made his sacrifice of any value. However, individuals come along who feel they can go on with life with complete disregard, thereby showing a complete lack of respect for that blood poured out. It kind of treats Jesus' blood as a circus affair; that it can be used without any regard for its true value, which is forgiveness for genuine repentance. So a person doesn't even have to eat or transfuse blood to show it disrespect, at least here in the case of Jesus.

why the WTBS choses which parts of blood are OK and which ones are not is speculation on my part. Here it is, If a member of Bethel (someone "important", of course) or someone of the anointed (someone "more-important", of course) the Governing Body (someone "very-important" -no assuming here, people move out of the way for these guys), really need something then it's rationalized away. We all ?benefit. But if it's you or me, you're basically stuck, for the moment, or more.

Right or wrong people die for what they believe in everyday. Right or wrong they die for a cause. I feel that that decision should be respected.

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Please help if you can!!

by broken in

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this is my first time so i hope i don't sound too pathetic.. my situation is this: i am not a jw, but i am in love with a girl who was raised a jw.

we've been together for 4+ years and i would like nothing more than to marry her.

she has been what i guess you'd call "inactive" for almost two years, but i don't think her convictions have weakened any.

thewiz

If you really want to scare a JW -charge them with Apostacy.

What happens is the kiss of death regarding JWs. You have absolutely no defense such a charge. To even suspect someone is a apostate is to invite complete shunning. Highly possible even your own father and mother brothers and sister, aunts uncles, cousin, etc. Will treat you as dead. Thus the warning.

If the love of your life even suspects that you are leading her down the road to apostacy, you could get complete and total rejection. No explaination, that's it, your dead.

Regarding Dateline see other threads in these forums. It's about pediphiles in the JW Org. I can see that as the only thing that could compare to the charge of apostacy. However, now not only are you are an outcast from the JWs (which is the apparent future Dateline report - it charges that reports of pediphiles are dismissed or covered over, etc.) but also the whole world.

If, of course true, righfully so.

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JW Child Abuse: An Insider's Insight

by silentlambs in

i post the following at the request of barbara anderson.. .

as a result of the newspaper report calling attention to my actions i feel compelled to provide further information that has come to light and deserves full exposure.. the society is very much aware of my intentions, because of a private e-mail i innocently wrote someone was forwarded to the society without my permission.

you can read it in its entirety, below.

thewiz

I heard this saying one time and is has stuck with me ever since. I have always wished I could say it of myself.

"A coward dies a thousand deaths but a hero dies only once."

In the WTBS I feel as if I have died those thousand deaths. But you,
Bro/Sis Anderson you will have the honor of dying that one "heroic death."

I admire people like you. Such courage, honor, and bravery. You have a lot at stake. May Jehovah be with you.

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Please help if you can!!

by broken in

jw
friends

this is my first time so i hope i don't sound too pathetic.. my situation is this: i am not a jw, but i am in love with a girl who was raised a jw.

we've been together for 4+ years and i would like nothing more than to marry her.

she has been what i guess you'd call "inactive" for almost two years, but i don't think her convictions have weakened any.

thewiz

JW have a firm upbringing that it is a horrible thing and virtually a shame to the family name, to date someone who is not a JW.

Not to imply that you are a derelict. But if she has been seeing you and/or dating you and she knows you aren't a JW, she can't be much of a JW. So you have a head start right there.

However, it is probably true that she hasn't given up on many other WTBS things. So that could be hurdle.

I think if you try to spend an inordinate amount of time "proving" something to her (no one likes to be proved wrong), it may alienate her. You would then become the "apostate" -and there is no worse label a JW can get, other than recent developments regarding the up and coming NBC Dateline thing, I guess.

Tread carfully. Be truthful. Above all else, be honorable.

Just being honest.

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Thank You Ray Franz.

by Martini in

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hello friends,.

in a thread over at witnesses.net entitled "society bracing for law suits" fellow jw's are taking swipes at ray franz.

not too long ago, while i was still under the wt spell i also would have similarily spoken abusively of ray.

thewiz

I know/about who Mr. Randy Watters is, I try to use sarcasm, satire, hyberbole, rhetoric, etc. where ever I can. I was just trying to make a point.

first it's the WTBS trying to save our souls, and for some, I guess it's now Mr. Randy Watters, Mr. Ray Franz, or whatever other big names can be dropped, that are trying to save our souls.

I know Mr. Franz, isn't looking for a following..., per se.

It was just my Modest Proposal...

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Thank You Ray Franz.

by Martini in

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hello friends,.

in a thread over at witnesses.net entitled "society bracing for law suits" fellow jw's are taking swipes at ray franz.

not too long ago, while i was still under the wt spell i also would have similarily spoken abusively of ray.

thewiz

Zev - I thought it was richard dean anderson, but I wasn't sure (he certainly has aged). He's in another show now on the SCI-FI channel, Star Gate, I think. McGyver -I never did get used to a guy who could save the world starting with a tooth pick. Watched the show once for about 15 min.

I feel like playing twenty questions, but I'll hold out. I think I know who you are. I'd just like to know how you figured me out so quick. I'm usually very perceptive about these things and my hunches are more correct than not.

I haven't completely turned over to the "darkside." I know the Bible to be true, maybe some of you don't -but hey it's a free country. I always evaluate everything down to it's logical constructs. A friend of mine always says, "You know what Mao Tse Tung said, 'Everyone lives with contradictions'."

My interests are legion. Too many so I pretty much give up on them all. I'm a reader, big time (usually tech junk, it keeps me employed). Would like to throw the T.V. out the window, but it provides solace for my soul, cursed thing! Garbage-in-Garbage-out.

I like to take long walks on the beach, kittens, bondage, and uh...wrong forum!

Hey! I know Jackie Mason, does that get me in the "dropping names" club? [8>]

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Does the WTBTS surf here? Question ANSWERED!

by biblexaminer in

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many have pondered the question.... "does the watchtower bible and tract society read what they themselves have labeled "apostate", whether it be books, or web sites?

the answer to this question could be verified by a future "whistleblower", who perhaps worked in the watchtower's basement, but there is already enough proof for a definitive answer.. we will examine the question regarding the watchtower's "surfing habits" by means of proof as found in the awake of august 8, 2001. this article is currently being "placed" (sold) from door to door this month.

i know, i 'sold' some.. on page 7 we find these paragraphs beneath a picture of a miserable looking guy surfing the inet in ramshackle surroundings... (the watchtower's basement no doubt).

thewiz

All Simon, I think it's Simon has to do is examine his web access logs and get the URLs of visitors.

Of course, there could be some spoofing and not to mention sites an individual could go through to hide their real ID.