I agree to that. I also reacted negatively on the derogatory term of the camp survivor. And why should one mock someone old anyway... common decency excludes that...
InquiryMan
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BIG NEWS! Leader of German Watchtower History Archives Resignes and Leaves Branch Office!
by GermanXJW injohannes wrobel, the founder of the watchtower history archives in germany, responsible for the stand firm-video and the stand-firm-exhibitions resigned in november 2008 and left the german branch office.
he was also the responsible person for many of the wt sponsored websites on jw in the 'third reich'!.
there are no further details known yet but this could be big news!.
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Do JWs wear veils?
by cameo-d insomeone told me yesterday that she had studied with witnesses "up to chapter 3"...whatever that means.. she said that a man and woman came to her house one day after she had been studying and that the woman put on a head covering or veil when they started the study.
she asked the woman why she did that and the woman replied they do that when in presence of a brother.. i think she must have got jws mixed up with some other group...i just never heard of the veil thing before.. is this a jw practice?.
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InquiryMan
you do not have to wear a head covering when reading at the book study, that must have been a misapplication of that rule.. I guess they did it "just in case"...
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I was told off twice for what I wore to Bethel....so the Hell with them!
by Witness 007 inthe first time i went to australia bethel during a holiday, we pioneer boys put on our best "going out" clothes, no ties just very smart, well groomed and neat.
the sister we stayed with said: "oh no you can't wear those clothes, you have to dress in meeting clothes!
" so we did, realizing we had shamed ourselves and our god.
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InquiryMan
I`ve been to a number of bethel homes, thus I realized the standards were somewhat more relaxed in "southern" countries... I toured the italian bethel in shorts (gasp)....
At the Greek bethel I got the most hospitable welcome. I were treated so well. Got white wine for lunch, not a contribution box in sight and the people where very friendly. In fact, the bethel boys played volleyball in the yard just wearing t-shirts and shorts...
The German bethel were very strict and orderly.... The French a little bit sloppy by comparison in fact.
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Did You Know Any "Gay" Jehovah's Witnesses?
by minimus ini suspect a few witnesses were not "straight" but didn't act on their sexual preferences.. i knew one up and coming bethelite who was approached by the bethel heavies and talked to about his "effeminate mannerisms" and was pretty much told that he could become a more prominent menmber of the bethel family if he "became more masculine looking" and preferably found a bethel sister to marry.
he followed the counsel and was thereafter a regular designated bethel speaker at district conventions.
interestingly, all of his bethel buddies thought the whole scenario was a hoot, knowing that he was really an effeminate man suddenly now looking very hetero..
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InquiryMan
Thanks for your input, johnny 1880. My children are handling it very fine, I must say.... When I did break the news to them a couple of years ago, My eldest stated: You´ve got to live your life in the way that is right for you. And my other son stated: I love you, I might end up having three dads.... Well, he only has one dad, and that is me, but has got two very nice other men in his life that supports and cares about him.... And that is so good. My daughter accepts things very readily and is very fond of my boy-friend...
I am so happy my boy friend goes so well along with the children. That is a must...
So I am very proud of my children and how they have handled my process.
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Did You Know Any "Gay" Jehovah's Witnesses?
by minimus ini suspect a few witnesses were not "straight" but didn't act on their sexual preferences.. i knew one up and coming bethelite who was approached by the bethel heavies and talked to about his "effeminate mannerisms" and was pretty much told that he could become a more prominent menmber of the bethel family if he "became more masculine looking" and preferably found a bethel sister to marry.
he followed the counsel and was thereafter a regular designated bethel speaker at district conventions.
interestingly, all of his bethel buddies thought the whole scenario was a hoot, knowing that he was really an effeminate man suddenly now looking very hetero..
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InquiryMan
Yes, myseølf ;-). To make it short, was a zealous witness boy. Knew I had gay tendencies when growing up, never liked sports (apart from figure skating, latin/standard dances and gymnastics (!), were into musicals and Eurovision Song contest, always talked with the sisters etc etc.. But resented the thought of being gay. Believed the society´s advice in the literature, that such tendences might disappear in time due to praying etc).... I did get married and was genuinly in love (did tell my wife-to-be of my tendencies before we got married).... It did not go away, but I never acted upon my tendencies... But I could not give my wife the life she deserved in all respects.. Got three children, stayed married for more than 15 yrs, finally got divorced (she wanted it, not I)... During the latter years of our marriage, we did leave the witnesses (I had been an elder for more than a decade). I did not leave because of the gay issue.... That process came later.Tough years... However, everything has turned out so fine as it could be. She has got a new family, and I a most wonderful boy-friend and I get along very well with my ex-wife too
Apart from that I know another sister who left the witnesses who is a lesbian, a sister that is a witness, that is definitely a lesbian, an elder that was gay (he became a witness as an adult and was quite flamboyant, but very nice) and apioneer who was openly gay (also a grown up convert).
After I came out, I have met several gay ex-witnesses.
I am proud that I never cheated on my wife.
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News from Mother ship
by jefferywhat in1. bethel in ny suspect high level apostate, cant identify it but know its there.
2. major organizational changes about to start rolling out, one is changes to the "service committee" and titles, po to be done away with, thats all i know for now.
was told that if you are the sort of person that cant handle changes, you wont stay in the org for long.
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InquiryMan
I remember meeting Noumear when he was serving at Bethel in Nairobi, Kenya, in the mid 80s.
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Danish film, "Worlds Apart," (about JW girl) reviewed by XJW author
by AndersonsInfo inonce again i'm posting information about the new danish film.
this time, the xjw, who saw the movie, updated his original e-mail to me containing additional facts.
"to verdener" / "worlds apart.".
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This film be shown on major cinemas in Norway as one of the Christmas movies... I am going to see it with my aunt and two cousins... Apart from that I will host a DVD-showing at home with some of my colleagues at work. I am looking forward to hearing their views of the film. the first time I saw it, I saw it with several ex-witnesses and their partners. We were very absorbed and touched by the movies. An ex-witness brother was used as a consultant for the film, explaining the accuracy in language, clothing, and the general depitiction of JW life. (In Denmark, bears are allowed)...
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Someone in my family died this week - I am not doing well
by BonaFide inso i am sitting here crying, i am a pretty emotional guy.
i have been a witness all my life, so this is so hard.
first, this is my immediate family.
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InquiryMan
I am sorry for your loss, too.
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Why aren't JW's exposed in the news on 60 Minutes?
by BonaFide ini know we had the dateline show a few years ago, but what about recently?.
seems to me that with about a million members in the us, and all the strange policies like blood transfusions, informing authorities re child molestation, disfellowshipping, that it would be a big story.
especially with so many witnesses that are depressed, or suicidal, or with the broken marriages, or children that die or those that are shunned.
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InquiryMan
I remember the Watchtower had a frontpage article once dealing with 60 minutes or a similar programme. And I remember thinking that the coverage on the witnesses in that particular programme did not seem that bad at all. At the same time, the witnesses were facing a crusade of bad publicity in a northern european country, in all networks, radio, newspapers etc... And the policy of the watchtower was most of the time "no comments"... At the end the coordinator had to appear on national television (on the news) and he made a bad figure, he was caught in lying and that was the major news the next day. No mention of that in the yearbook....
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InquiryMan
Me and three other elders (I have DA, the others rermain JWs) did write a concerned letter on the article in the Watchtower on suppressed memories and child abuse, an article which many in the congregation found upsetting. We did not get any reply, althoug it was written in a very humble, yet forceful way... We all signed with our full names of course...