Benny Hinn was a protege of the late evangelist Kathryn Kuhlman. Want to see some weird stuff? Just look at some of her taped crusades on TBN. She used to wear long shroud type dresses, reminded of Lily Munster.
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Benny Hinn. By what MEANS..do people fall down?
by gumby inthe other day was flipping thru the channels and "benny hinn" was on.
i left it there for a moment for amusement...not for spiritual instruction.
for those who don't know who he is......he's a christian who supposedly has the gift of healing, and slaying with the holy spirit....those who believe.
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Is Jehovah taking aim at the apostates?
by kenpodragon inwhen i was a witness, we would sometimes get people who were disfellowshiped or disassociated that protested the assemblies or kingdom hall.
perhaps there are a few who have done this on this board.
i remember a few comments made by people in the congregation when they saw these people.
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I don't wish any harm to the JW's themselves, just their abusive and autocratic organization. I still have loved ones in the WT (my parents). I love them dearly and wish they would get the heck out of there.
I remember going to assemblies thru the years and I guess I was a apostate wanna be. I was morbidly fascinated by watching those people picket, although some were not ex JW's, just some people picketing from nearby churches. What struck me as odd is that everyone who saw them just had vile, hate and disgust for them. I quietly thought what did this religion do to you that would make you carry signs...I now know....
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Why do many ..'lock' their mail?
by gumby inopen your damn mail guys!.
i was wondering why you guys do this?
take a damn box from yahoo just for mail from this site or something!
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I locked my e-mail when I joined because my e-mail has my first and last name in it.
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On the Verge of Leaving the Testigos
by Coqui inlooking for suggestions!.
i am 38 years old.
not raised in the "truth", baptized in 1984. married with three very young kids.
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I simply left back in the 90's and they haven't bothered me. Perhaps it's because my parents are still very devout in their congregation. I am not for sure why that haven't come and pestered me, however it's been close to 10 years and I hope our distance doesn't make their heart grow fonder.
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NEWS FLASH: WATCHTOWER WILL NEVER Meet with BILL B
by minimus injust in case you weren't really sure, the watchtower and the governing body will never meet with bill bowen.
he is now disfellowshipped.
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I promise to be a whole lot nicer - lol
The Governing Body will never meet with Bill Bowen because the GB think they can do no wrong. Their arrogance lies behind the fact instead of listening to Bill Bowen and Barbara Anderson, they shut them up by disfellowshipping for causing divisions. A group of people who think they are better than everyone (when I was a member I thought that) is a hard tower to crack. I hope more victims of the policies of the WT come forward and become more litigious. The only thing the WT will understand is when it hits them in their pocketbook.
Part of my healing from the WT was recognizing the fact I had been deceived by a group of old farts in cheap Sears suits who twisted the Bible and its original translation to fit their own beliefs.
SILENT LAMBS ROAR!
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have you thought of going back to meetings?
by ballistic inthat is, to find disfellowshipped people who need support or advice?
if you've been to meetings since being disfellowshipped, i take it you'll know that they all sit at the back and leave straight away so they are easy to spot.
i continued to attend for several months after being disfellowshipped and met up with several disfellowshipped persons, although i had to attend several times as they didn't appear to make all the meetings (they must be spiritually weak or something lol).
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I have an Internet friend who was disfellowshipped who went back to meetings because of the events of September 11.
I would rather be run over by a tank than ever set foot in a KH.
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I need advice please......................
by Jesika insince this will be my first time going to las vegas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i am going on oct 16-18. we are staying at the hotel luxor--the one with the sqhinx in the frount.
so, tell me in the short time we are there (this my boyfriend's first time in vegas too) what can we absolutly not miss??????????
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I stand corrected, tickets to Siegfried and Roy are $105.50 EACH...ugh. And the tigers are on display at The Mirage. It's amazing what you can learn if you just use www.google.com.
I stand corrected again, Rick Springfield is the star now of the FX show. I met him at the Louvre in 1985. He was in disguise, however, I recognized him and said "Hi Rick..."
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I need advice please......................
by Jesika insince this will be my first time going to las vegas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i am going on oct 16-18. we are staying at the hotel luxor--the one with the sqhinx in the frount.
so, tell me in the short time we are there (this my boyfriend's first time in vegas too) what can we absolutly not miss??????????
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I heard the Siegfield and Roy Magic Show is wonderful, however I think it's like $75 a person - someone confirm that. I think the animals are on display at some hotel. (Am I a lot of help or what - lol)
I also heard the FX Show was great. I would want to go just to see David Cassidy. Then I could relive my childhood from all those wonderful songs from the Partridge Family (I think I love you...)
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Oh no here we go again...letting your kid die
by TresHappy inno cure for cancer tenn. mom, preacher accused of letting girl die by turning to god .
by dean schabner .
oct. 3 when doctors told jacqueline crank to get her daughter to a hospital for the tumor that was growing on her shoulder, the tennessee woman turned to god instead.
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No Cure for Cancer Tenn. Mom, Preacher Accused of Letting Girl Die by Turning to God
By Dean Schabner
Oct. 3 When doctors told Jacqueline Crank to get her daughter to a hospital for the tumor that was growing on her shoulder, the Tennessee woman turned to God instead.Print This Page Email This Page See Most Sent When Divine Intervention Breaks the Law What Can Squirrels Teach Us About Preserving Organs? Can Yoga, Acupuncture Rehabilitate Criminals? Now the woman could face murder charges on top of the aggravated child abuse and neglect charges that she and the girl's "spiritual father," Ariel Ben Sherman, already face.
The 15-year-old girl, Jessica Crank, died on Sept. 15 from a rare form of bone cancer. One last attempt at using faith to help the girl was attempted at her funeral on Sept. 18, when Sherman asked a group of members of his New Life Ministries to pray over the girl's open casket for her resurrection.
The girl did not rise from the dead, but Sherman who was charged with five counts of child abuse in Oregon in 1984 and convicted of criminal mistreatment said that should not be any reason for those in his church to lose faith.
"Jesus is a healer," Sherman said at the funeral service. "Jessica believed that, too."
There is no legislation against people making their own decision not to go to a doctor, but when a parent decides not to seek medical care for a sick child, it can be considered child abuse or worse, if the child dies.
Tennessee is one of 38 states that allow parents to turn to prayer or faith healing to treat their children's illnesses and not seek medical care, but in most of those states the law specifies that if a child's condition is life threatening, a physician must be consulted.
Basketball-Sized Tumor
Crank was arrested in June, a month after she took Jessica to a Lenoir City, Tenn., clinic and, according to police, did not take the girl to an appointment with an emergency room doctor at the University of Tennessee Medical Center in Knoxville.
"They took her X-rays and looked for two hours trying to find an orthopedic surgeon and she left there under the assumption she was going to UT hospital and never arrived there," Lenoir City police Officer Lynette Ladd said. "They called the area hospitals and doctor's offices and she hadn't been anywhere, so they turned it over to us."
Jessica already had a basketball-sized tumor on her shoulder when her mother brought her to the clinic. After her mother was arrested and the girl was put in the hospital, she was diagnosed with bone cancer.
Before the girl died, attorneys for Jacqueline Crank and Sherman tried convince the court to take a deposition from her, because they said the girl supported the decision not to take her to a doctor, but the judge denied the request.
"It's the court's opinion it would be a great injustice to subject this dying child to the procedure of a deposition," Loudon County Sessions Judge William Russell said in his ruling.
"I cannot defend this mother without taking this deposition," Gregory Isaacs, the attorney for Jacqueline Crank, said at the hearing.
Loudon County Assistant District Attorney Gary Fox argued that it made no difference whether the 15-year-old wanted to rely on prayer.
"That's not a decision that the child makes. That's a decision that the parents make," he said.
Power of the Holy Spirit
While a parent's decision not to do everything possible even if it conflicts with religious beliefs to help an obviously desperately sick child might seem bizarre to many people, relying solely on faith to cure disease has held a place in American religious life for more than a century, at least since the emergence of the Christian Science church in the 1880s.
Until the 1960s, most of the legal cases dealing with parents withholding medical care for their children involved Christian Science followers, but in the 1960s there were increasing numbers of members of other denominations who were charged with crimes for turning to prayer rather than medicine for their kids.
The practice of seeking divine assistance in times of illness is not uncommon among Methodists, Episcopalians and Pentecostals, though it is rare for members of those denominations to turn to prayer to the exclusion of medical care, according to religious scholars.
Most often, those who will turn their backs on medical science are followers of the so-called charismatics, preachers who emphasize the power of the Holy Spirit and point to certain scriptures, notably from Acts and Paul's Letter to the Corinthians, said J. Gordon Melton, the director of the Institute for the Study of American Religion.
The strides made by medical science over the last century may have taken away some of the impetus to turn away from doctors and seek another answer for illness, Melton suggested.
Massachusetts Sect on Trial
The issue was again brought to national attention in the late 1980s and the 1990s with a series of cases, including that of David and Ginger Twitchell, two Christian Scientists who were convicted of manslaughter in the death of their son, for whom they did not get medical care.
Their conviction was overturned three years later on technical grounds.
More recently, three members of a sect in Attleboro, Mass., known as The Body were accused of murder in the April 1999 starvation death of a 10-month-old boy. The boy was taken off solid food and forced to take nourishment only from his mother's breast, even though the woman was not producing nearly enough milk to feed him.
The decision was made to take the boy off solid food after the youngster's aunt said she had a divine revelation ordering the change. The boy's father, Jacques Robidoux, was convicted of first-degree murder, while the mother, Karen Robidoux, and the woman who said she had the vision, Michelle Mingo, are both awaiting trial.
Jacqueline Crank and Sherman are due back in court for their next hearing on Oct. 11.
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IF YOU COULD HAVE JW'S OUTLAWED, WOULD YOU?
by minimus insince so many are vehemently opposed to jehovah's witnesses, if it was in your power, would you simply outlaw the witnesses?
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It would be a wonderful day to not have destructive cults such as the JW's in our midst. However, they do exist and the best way to combat it is by exposing their falsehoods their own literature. That's what got me out of there, the lies in their own publications, the way they translated the Bible to fit their own belief system so as not to be "like" Christendom. The Internet is the worst enemy of the WT and exposing their vomit. I am so thankful for forums like this, a really great place to vent.
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