can we trust this website?.
watchtower as a united nations ngo - critical look at the conspiracy theory.
http://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/.
I have not read everyone else's comments so if this was already stated, I apologize.
In a nutshell, if they were not doing anything wrong by their relationship to the UN, then why did they QUICKLY disassociate themselves when the Guardian article came out? The bible says that the GUILTY run when no one pursues.
Why not have a WT article explaining that it is okay to be an NGO instead of trying to cover it up?
http://spiritualbrother.blogspot.com/2009/04/letter-by-jf-rutherford-to-radio.html.
thoughts?.
since moving back to another town i've met up with an elder i knew from way back.
(i met him coming out of a salvation army shop.).
he visited me at home a few weeks ago, and as i seem to be getting more comfortable at fading i invited him in and told him i was very concerned over the 607 bce.
Hi Bigmouth-excellent letter. I may borrow it to send to my mother-in-law. I have a letter from her on its way (I was forewarned) so I want to come up with a reply that might make her think. She, however, has never had doubts so not sure if her wall is even penetrable (sp).
You didn't come across as "I'm right, you're wrong" which can be a turnoff to a diehard JW (the irony). Were you going to include anything about the UN thing?
I look forward to other comments.
since moving back to another town i've met up with an elder i knew from way back.
(i met him coming out of a salvation army shop.).
he visited me at home a few weeks ago, and as i seem to be getting more comfortable at fading i invited him in and told him i was very concerned over the 607 bce.
Edited to remove double post.
quick bio: born-in, third gen jw, devout family, dad an elder/po, mom pioneered off/on, baptized at age 10 (my elder dad asked me to wait but i didnt), had overall good childhood, toured bethel, aux pio off/on, finished hs early, reg pio for a year then pio school, met amazing jw girl (also third gen devout), spent a year in community college (paid for by fairly conservative jw parents), got a good job, married amazing jw girl, appointed as ms, delivered public talks and parts on ca/dc, wife and i had first child.
it was a near-storybook jw life (except no bethel).
i had a couple of normal issues in teenage years, but sought the assistance from the elders and ironed it out.
SBC-I just read your introduction post after reading about your kangaroo court hearing.
Anyway, your story is so similar to mine-the hubby and I tried to reconnect with "the truth" after being inactive. The hubby was even on an assembly part about coming back after being inactive, but like you said, if the foundation is cracked, the doubts come back tenfold. The koolaid does taste good at first, but you quickly taste the bitterness.
Fast forward to today, we have each other and our children, but the rest of the family rarely speaks to us. Fortunately we do not live near any of them so that helps. We were told that we can still come visit but it would be awkward.
I feel so sorry for the posters on this board that have spouses and children still stuck in the cult. I can't imagine trying to deal with that.
so yesterday my mil did the token believing df'd person thing and told my wife that if she had not been df'd she would not have corrected her course of action.
it was a devistating blow to everything that i've been working on with my wife.
her mom said if she had not been df'd she would have spread lies about my wife's dad and would have still wanted to be with her ex-boyfriend.
"But here is the sad thing...I think she's right. If she wasn't df'd she would still probably be with that guy and bad mouthing her innocent husband. That's why all I could say is, "Well what does that show about the quality of her faith?" But it's so frustrating because the fact that my wife INITIATED the conversation shows that it was bothering her and she had been thinking about it."
You don't know that for sure, she may have eventually come around on her own and realized what she had done. As for your wife, at least she is thinking about it.
thousands of years ago, greek philosophers advised, "know thyself".
if the watchtower society had existed back then, they would now hold the record for the most un-self aware and oblivious to their faults - religion ever!.
it's like shooting fish in a barrel.
Mad - it's kind of like the voting thing. If your ) spouse forces you to do it, it becomes a matter between you and Jehovah. The elders do not have the right to police it, but it's still considered a big NO NO.
does anyone see this happening: the jw's breaking off from the wtbts, when they realize that a lot of the teachings arent true?.
Well put, brotherdan.
I think there was a bit of a shake up when Ray Franz was disfellowshipped. A lot of Bethelites "saw the light" at that time and then his book caused a lot of witnesses to take blinders off and break away. That was huge!
Edited to add: Not to mention the Internet, Silentlambs and most recently, Barbara Anderson. Each on it's own may be considered a small ripple but if you get enough of them going you will eventually have a tidal wave.
thus proclaims the quietly un-annointed governing class of the watchtower and bible tract society, passing as truth.
(watchtower july 15, 2010, page 23, paragraph 10).
this paragraph about the governing body follows a description of the annointed class, a classic bait-and-switch.
Excellent Point, AnnOMaly. The GB has always slammed the Catholics because the priests say the bible is too deep for the R&F but they are guilty of the exact same thing.
i started going to a church that my co-worker goes to about a month ago and i really like it.
they actually meet in a movie theater, serve bagels and cream cheese, coffee, and krispy kreme doughnuts.
i wear jeans and flip flops if i want, they play rock music, and so opposite of any kh experience i've ever had.
I actually look forward to Sunday's. How bizarre! I use to dread Tuesdays, Thursdays, Saturdays and Sundays-now I enjoy life.
The best part-if I decide to never step foot in there again, no big deal.
