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  WT needs your kids uneducated: CO training video is Master Class in F.O.G. This is jaw-droppingly stupid. Beyond moronic, it's sub-moronic.

  by WingCommander in

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  co training video: link to ex-jw reddit thread discussion.

  today is the first time i was made aware of this actual elder body video.

  it's training for how a co should handle elder's whose children decide to pursue further education.

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  If one goes to university or into the hospital and what one does for work is no one's business. People need to not tell others in the congregation.
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  What would happen if the religion just straight out gets outed as bad? The ORG admits to it and all the members get told to disperse

  by Starlight.vee in

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  like the org just gives up and comes out saying that all of what they are saying is untrue and that there is no armageddon, nothing.

  how do y’all think the the members still in it would react?.

  there be a mental health crisis i perhaps.

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  "Like the ORG just gives up and comes out saying that all of what they are saying is untrue and that there is no Armageddon, nothing. "

  All of that is not a JW only thing. There are other religions that teach that.
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  Thanking Jehovah God for Sports

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  serena william's thanks jehovah god for allowing her to participate in sports.

  how nice.

  my jw parents followed the rules and thought they were doing jehovahs will by denying me participation in sports.

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  Why is it that when a person, past or present, says something or does something, that we have to look at it as an example of anything?

  So Serena Williams said and done something? Why do we care?

  I'm sick of this whole using people as examples thing.

  And why does it matter if playing professional sports is frowned upon by the WTS?

  They are not our boss. And if that is our profession and we are making money, more power to us.

  Show everyone that we can be good people while being pros.
  
  
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  "A Jehovah's Witness"

  by NotFormer in

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  a very certain distinctive of jws is how they refer to themselves.

  "one of jehovah's witnesses".

  it's one of those coded jargon thingies.

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  Yes, in the first century they were to be witnesses of Jesus and preach him.

  But we are not in the first century anymore are we?

  People need to stop using the jargon of the Bible and then apply it to today.

  You see, back then they need to preach Jesus because no one knew him.

  Now everyone knows Jesus, so it is not necessary.

  But Christians are more than Jesus. They are worshippers of his Father just like Jesus was and that is why Christians are Jehovah's Witnesses and not Jesus' Witnesses.

  Why stop at the 2nd highest person when you can worship the highest!
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  "A Jehovah's Witness"

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
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  a very certain distinctive of jws is how they refer to themselves.

  "one of jehovah's witnesses".

  it's one of those coded jargon thingies.

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  What's your point?

  No one ever says 'a Jehovah's Witness', it just does not sound right.

  Everyone says 'One of Jehovah's Witnesses' because it sounds right. Nothing coded about it.
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  Relevant message on Reddit about current elders

  by Gorb in

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  read this relevant message on reddit, about current elders.. https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1eb0ees/the_changes_are_affecting_elders_the_hardest_in/.

  spot on, isn't it?.

  gorby.

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  "10 years ago, you were expected to DF a minor. You didn't agree with this, teenagers grow out of bad behaviour with patience and guidance,"
  
  Don't blame the Governing body because elders just follow along. They need to stand up for what they believe and be their own people.

  "As they make doctrinal changes, you realize you've been stressed by giving all these endless talks that consumed all your time, because all of that doesn't matter anymore."

  It never meant anything other than what you made it mean.

  "No more reporting hours. All that harassing publishers because of low hours,"

  There's never been harassing publishers for low hours or not turning in time.

  No one's harassed me and I stopped turning in time and going out more than 10 years ago.

  "When you are tasked with enforcing the rules and the teachings, it hits you really hard when you realize that was all for nothing"

  It's always been for nothing since there are no rules and teachings to enforce, other than what you want to enforce. It is all on you elders.
  
  
  
  
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  What the watchtower demands from you

  by Ron.W. in

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  perhaps you considering joining the wt cult - here is a concise list of why you should not.. what the watchtower demands of you:.

  1.complete obedience to them.. 2. be willing to lose your life for zany blood teachings.. 3.put other cult members before your real family.. 4.refusal to let you leave their religion when the penny drops it's a cult.. 6.accept that they can backtrack and change any of their flip flop teachings at any time.. 7. you can't change your mind about their teachings without harsh discipline,.

  8. insistence that you humbly and quickly apologise for your mistakes and errors.. 9.gladly accept they will never be apologising for any of their mistakes or errors of judgement.. 10.accept that even ones who follow and believe in the bible, but not the governing body are worthy of destruction.. please feel free to add more..

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  They don't demand anything of us.

  And if they do.

  Just say NO

  I don't understand why everyone is afraid of the Watchtower and the Governing Body.l
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  Visited the Russell gravesite yesterday

  by dropoffyourkeylee in

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  wife and i visited the russell gravesite in allegheny (pittsburgh) pennsylvania yesterday.

  i’ll post photos if i can get them to upload on the hotel wifi..

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  Why does anyone care about Russell grave? He didn't put it there. Why does anyone care about Russell? He's dead.
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  The Rapture

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
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  when i was pioneering, i don't remember ever addressing the rapture question.

  does anyone know how a jw would respond to this verse?

  for the lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of god.

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  Thomasmore asked ""As of right now (or rather 1995) all of the 144,000 have been anointed and sealed."

  Can you please elaborate on this comment. I have never heard that JW's ever felt 1995 was pivotal"

  The number of partakers went down until about 1994,1995.Then they started to go up.. More people weren't being anointed. People partook because they wanted to be anointed, as if that changed things.
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  The Rapture

  by Sea Breeze in

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  when i was pioneering, i don't remember ever addressing the rapture question.

  does anyone know how a jw would respond to this verse?

  for the lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of god.

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  Pronger1. Rev 5 has nothing to do with the 144,000

  "The 144,000 is the great multitude fulfilled in an unexpected way for the Jews"

  No. No. No.

  Ex 19:5,6 "Now if you will strictly obey my voice and keep my covenant, you will certainly become my special property out of all peoples, for the whole earth belongs to me. You will become to me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’"
  
  That is fulfilled in 1 Pet 2:9 "But you are “a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for special possession, that you should declare abroad the excellencies” of the One who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light."
  
  That was supposed to go to Israel but they were unfaithful and it was transferred to spiritual Israel.

  When Jesus was on earth, neither he, nor Peter nor Paul, knew how many would make up spiritual Israel. Jesus said little flock. But he later learned when he got the Revelation that it would be 144,000.
  
  Revelation 5:9,10 & 20:4-6 says that those who are raised to heaven in the first resurrection are to be kings and priests with Jesus. The number 144,000 makes sense to assist Jesus. They are anointed with holy spirit as anointing is what makes a king.

  Jesus was resurrected in a spirit body.

  John 2:21 "But he was speaking of the temple of his body" was John's commentary about what Jesus said. We can not take that as fact.

  What Jesus said to Thomas does not change things. He was not a ghost or spirit at that time because he had taken on a body.