"Not bad. But I still think your Purple Rain disguise
for witnessing was better."
Uncanny
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Run, Watchtower, Run
by Uncanny ini watched an entertaining german film on cable last night called run.
lola, run.
the plot revolves around how a young woman named lola has 20 minutes to come up with 100,000 marks or her boyfriend gets executed by the mob.. the film cleverly replays a 20 minutes running scene in which lola reacts differently each time to things which happen on her run(s).. one incident has lola nearly knocking down an old woman pedestrian as she rounds a corner.
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I watched an entertaining German film on cable last night called Run. Lola, Run. The plot revolves around how a young woman named Lola has 20 minutes to come up with 100,000 marks or her boyfriend gets executed by the mob.
The film cleverly replays a 20 minutes running scene in which Lola reacts differently each time to things which happen on her run(s).
One incident has Lola nearly knocking down an old woman pedestrian as she rounds a corner. Each time, the old woman curses Lola - even calls her a "f!@#$ bitch!" once after nearly being bowled over and then they cut to a rapid fire scene of the old woman's imagination. This one has her celebrating a lottery win, as if this is what is really her heart's desire.
But it's the old woman's final reaction to Lola's run that is of interest here. Recovering from being nearly knocked over again, and after looking back at the running Lola to call out "Bitch!"", the action then cuts to a congregation in a church. People are praying and receiving communion, as if to highlight the double standards of the Church goers and the old lady's own hypocrisy of spirit.
Then it comes. You have to be watching with full concentration, for it only takes about half a second. And as if almost subliminal, right at the end of this religious reaction vignette, there she is, the same old woman, standing on a street corner and holding up two brighly covered magazines - obviously The Watchtower and Awake!
Making fun of JW's in movies is nothing new. But what struck me about this one was how the filmmakers lumped in the Watchtower Society with the mainline churches to illustrate the double standards often shown by so called Christians - even harmless looking little old ladies. To me, this is futher proof that the WT Society is being seen more and more as just another part of Christendom etc. It makes you wonder how effective those theocratic scribes in Brooklyn have been with their constant blabberings about how different Watchtower Witnesses of Jehovah are to mainstream Church goers. Not much in Germany.
Just out of interest, for all you film buffs and trivia freaks. What other films can you think of which either send up the Society or use its high public profile for cheap laughs, usually involving the persistent confrontation of the door to door ministry?
I can think of two obvious ones. 'Flying High' where Leslie Neilsen knocks a Watchtower-offering JW brother out of the way while striding through the Airport terminal. Or 'Coneheads' where Dan Akroyd and another guy pose as Witnesses to get inside the house of the Coneheads to gain more information about them. In this one, Akroyd actually produces a little witness spiel, mentioning something about how only 144,000 will be saved.
Can you think of any others?
Uncanny
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Who are you?
by Kent inmany people do post on this board, and many of the participants do spend a lot of hours every day/week helping others by answering to private mails.
many do get lots of private phone calls, and spend a lot of time talking to people on phone as well.. others are here to discuss, find friends, socialize with others and generally have a good time.
the nice thing about the net is the possibilities of finding new friends.
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Kent,
Marvellous idea. You surprise me. For someone with such a high profile on this apostate nonsense thing, and someone often not known for his subtlety of manners, I take my hat off to you again. 18 months ago, your own Watchtower Observor site, your efforts at H20 and now here have been instrumental (along with others like AF, Amazing and JanG) in saving what's still left of my new life after Jehovah's Witnesses. That Yahoo! subhead about Hitler and the Jehovah's Witnesses finally got me in one lonesome night when I decided I needed to look somewhere else for the Truth. Thank you.
I turned 50 last Sunday and I'm feeling a whole lot better about things now than when I turned 40. Or during those years when I was always kind of passively angry at life; just another silent misery masquerading as one of 'God's happy people''. No more. I'm doing my thing now; crazy things too like driving 1000 kilometres in a couple of months to demonstrate against globalisation in Melbourne.
'And what's with that stupid grin anyway?'
'Life's been good to me.'
In return, if I can do some small bit to help others to see the light of falsity now shining so brightly on the poor old Watchtower Society, I'll be there.
Does not everybody like the thought of reading about other people's stories and bios? The Internet truly brings together people from all over the world. All us ex-Witnesses here, no matter how different our past experiences may be, will always share a special bond of unity. It's this same thread of angst and happiness which is so fascinating and unique. Your latest concept could certainly cement some history.
I'd personally like to see a cap placed on the word length - that's the ruthless self-editor in me speaking now - of say a thousand words. That way you could collect a lot more interesting reads without losing the impact, or worse, people's attention.
Although quite a few posters here are already familar with my own tragic tale of Rocky Horror Witness Show behaviour, for those who don't, and for posterity, I would like to formalise the why in and why out especially. I will get around to it soon. Just wish I had a scanner so I could send you a picture, too.
Got a title for this new feature? And why not try Southern Italy for your holiday this year? Regards and keep up the good work.
Uncanny
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Do you choose DA or DF?
by ozziepost insome of us were discussing the other day the 'advantages' and 'disadvantages' of disassociating from the witnesses as against being disfellowshipped (for apostasy).. it seems from reading various experiences that most departing borgites choose to send in a letter of disassociation.
for them it saves the 'hassle' of being harrassed by the modern-day philistines, the elder class.
it also saves, to some extent, the reputation of the exdub.
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Hi, Ozziepost,
In my case, I chose DA quickly, or after only weeks of learning the Truth according to WT Society interpretations of the Bible was not really the Truth.
Fortunately, maybe, being a solitary man, I did not have to consider the issue of being shunned by familty members, so I just wrote a ltter off to the Australian Bethel resigning my assignment as an MTS pioneer and slipped away into theocratic oblivion.
One motivation which was very strong for me - still is - and one which apparently has not been mentioned in your follow-ups here was the legal implications of remaining an 'on file' Jay Dub with the Sydney Bethel, or for that matter any other satellite control centre for the great God of Brooklyn.
When I was studying twenty years back it was brought to my attention how important it was that I write a formal letter of resignation to the Anglican Church where I was supposedly registered as a C of E, having been formally confiormed into this Church as a 15 year old schoolboy. I did that, writing to my school chaplain who is/was married to one of Australia's leading Anglican advocates/apologists,
Barbara Thiering.I quoted all this gobbleygook about the Nicene Creed and other anti-Christendom stuff, and as expected, never heard back from the good Reverend. I had been softened up for this non-reaction by the elder who studyied with me - a former Methodist himself - and told not to worry about it. (Recognition wasn't the issue here, but more important was coming clean before Jehovah; by sending off the signed resignation letter.)
Point being, I can't see the difference in the process from formally quitting the Church of England or the good ole WT Society. To me now, they're all tarred with the same brush strokes of self-interest, conflicting doctrines, double standards and lies.
With those issues aside, I certainly don't want my name listed with either of these scams of religion. Who would? And to present a worse case scenario: What if the Satan's Governments really do turn nasty on religions like the JWS? I certainly will not now be tracked down like a dog and strung up for being still formally listed as a JW.
Uncanny
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American Identity
by Amazing ini enjoyed englishman's post about americans vs europeans.
i chose to start a new thread because i want to take the topic in another direction.. the usa is still a young nation and an enigma.
the nation was created by european settlers who wanted to get away from things they did not like about europe, especially religious intolerance and inflexible governments, and have the opportunity to build a new future.
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Amazing,
As one of your 'brothers' here in Australia,I thank you for your post.
As an Australian, I, too, do wish Anglo-Europeans in other nations like Canada, Great Britain, Australia and South Africa would not forsake their own cultural idioms and icons to embrace American ones. I also wish non-Americans would not judge America adversely by using their own limited criteria or on the too few Americans they may have met in their life.
However, your words did give me the impression you seem to feel a need to defend United States lifestyle values, or indeed, apologise for their insidious role in the worlwide homogenisation of popular culture. Don't bother. It's not your fault. This is a phenomenan the world has asked for, and one which has been intensified the last few years due to corporate globalisation and the world being shrunk itself by English language communication developments like the Intenet. American Rock n Roll and Hollywood movies might have started the process 50 years ago, and now Television continues to highlight the joys of everything American - from our own locally made version of 60 Minutes through to first run epoisodes of Everybody Loves Raymond on Sunday night.
Surely, it is only the American identity which is synomymous with the pursuit of freedom, fashion and fun - of being 'cool'. And those are the qualities in life which the majority of citizens now pursue all around the world; if they can afford it. For those who cannot, there is always a Big Mac and a baseball cap to wear backwards, just like the black kids in the crowd the other day who celebrated their freedom via the 25th anniversary of the Soweto riots in South Africa.
The only thing missing there was a rap song playing in the background.Like it or not, we must all live in a global village in the 21st century; a world of shrinking ethnic cultures which has allowed itself to be managed and manipulated by the ruling American-made mindset, its military firepower and the US dollar.
Things could be worse. We could all be Vodka swilling ruskies, or eating monkey brains for dinner in China.
Uncanny
...we''ll save Australia
don't wanna hurt no kangaroo;
we'll build an all American amusement park there,
they got surfin' too...(Randy Newman.)
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H2O update
by TheHighPriest inoh, man!
i just had to bring this one to everyones attention.. i pressume that this is rick going off.. .
bronze member .
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Uncanny
Very interesting. One question though: Did you ask Rick for permission to present his post on this forum? I don't think so.
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Why Should I
by hippikon indear friends.. i am at a turning point.
why should i resist the borg?
why should i dedicate a sizeable portion of my life to shooting down religious bigots?
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Hippikon,
Greetings from the cold, wet and windy, wintry Adelaide Hills. It's great writing weather, but has turned so bad this morning it marks the first one where I have not been able to put my pet galah - a very spoilt, but loveable wild bird - outside in the elements. His little pink and grey feathered friends and relatives didn't even turn up for a free feed today... Sorry, I'm way off topic, and that's not like me.
Gopher made some good points regarding your post. What interested me most concerns not those doubts you say you are having about continuing to offer "resistance" to the BORG, but how you say you're not disfellowshipped or disassociated; "... so not shunned. Not that it would make any difference."
If that is the case, then why do you continue to have your name listed on the books as one Jehovah's Witnesses at their Ingleburn Bethel? Surely the greatest part of being a resistor of the Watchtower Society, morally and legally, must be the removal of any formal ties with this great religious sham. I can understand others who have friends and family still inside and are therfeore remain reluctant to leave themselves for fear of losing loved ones forever.
But if you're really at a turning point, then why not complete your resistance by formalising your split from JayDubdom. Now I don't know the full story, or indeed what your motives are - in a way they are not any of my business - but you requested comments, so that's my
reply.Uncanny
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Dubs in 2005?
by Farkel incould this possibly be what dubs will be doing in 2005?.
http://farkel.0catch.com.
farkel
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Great to see an obviously polished, mainstream cartoonist has recently come up with a clever and funny piece about the futility of waiting for the Wathtower's ever-imminent end of the world.
Wouldn't it be wonderful if he/she could extend this work into a regular strip. With all the many ex-Witnesses and presently disgruntled publishers, and indeed, the millions of soon to be angry TV viewers who will watch the upcoming DATELINE segment on WT pedos and the great Brooklyn cover-up, I'm sure these cartoons would develop a sizeable cult following. Might even end up in the Washington Post as the new century's DOONESBURY, which enjoyed syndication in many places on the planet for decades.
Got any ideas for a title, Farkel, or others quick minds out there?
My suggestions are not all that hot, but would be something like ...
Waiting On Forever
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Sensitive New Light Hippies
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How Much for Vol.7 of "Studies in the Scri...
by Prisca inan amazing thing happened to me today.. i was in a neighbouring suburb, and wandered into a nondescript second-hand bookshop.
i asked where the religious books were, and the elderly shop-keeper pointed to the single shelf, stacked full with books.. amongst them was a faded red book entitled, "studies in the scriptures series 7 - the finished mystery".. i could not believe my luck.
here was a rare book, sitting innocently amongst books far younger than their companion.. i gingerly opened it up and browsed its contents.
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Hello Prisca,
After making such a startlingly rare find, why would you want somebody else to own this unique piece of theocratic WT history - so much a part of your/my history - for a couple a hundred bucks?
Why sell it? Why not keep it yourself to enjoy and share with friends.
Just my thoughts, or maybe I'm just too much of a sentimental bloke. Hey, I know you're not really in Vatican City, just like Mommy doesn't live in Jamaica. You are an Aussie girl - a very pretty one, too, if that's really your photo - so maybe you're not old enough to remember a 1970's Doug Ashdown song called 'Leave Love Enough Alone', later retitled as 'Winter In America' in hopeful anticipation of making more sales via anticipated US airplay. (See the corelation yet?)The lines was: 'It's funny how you don't know what you've got
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Story for Local Newspaper
by Larry ina local staen island newspaper asked me to write about my experience in the borg.
here it is - what are your comments?
my life in the jehovah's witness organization.
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Welcome to the Board, Larry,
So come on. Don't leave us lurching in the night. It's winter Down Under, nearly midnight, raining cats and dogs outside, I'm alone and about down to my last three or four shots of TEACHERS.
I gotta know WHY!!!!
Don't be shy - we've all got scroll down buttons on our keyboards.
So let's get it on with Part 2 of this great story about how Brother Larry Henderson found enlightenment and freedom on Staten Island.Uncanny