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  JW's AND THE RISING DEATH COUNT!

  by D wiltshire in

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  do you remember when you were a beleiving jw and you heard of some catastrophy?.

  i remember feeling sick because on one hand i wanted the death count to be as high as possible to prove we were in the time of the end, and on the other hand thinking how tragic, i was sick because i had such twisted thinking and i couldn't shake it.. did anyone else feel that way when you were a jw?.

  if not how did you feel about these things?.

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  This is tragic:

  Welcome to the Great Tribulation, Folks! Sep 11, 2001 12:57:08 PM

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  as i was in the dentists chair this morning, i got the news and my heart just sank. i think of all those poor people and their grieving families, and my heart goes out to them.
  well, You Know, i have to say this: ....my money is on you.. i think you nailed it this time...
  what is the verse about them "growing faint out of fear"???
  all i can say is..stay tuned.....you guys ain't seen nothing yet....
  the fun begins when the terrorists are identified and recompense is sought by the United States.. oh, and not to mention the ramifications in the global markets....
  yep, like i said folks...."welcome to the GT.....and the finale is the Big A"..
  this is a day that will go down in world history.
  chipster

  THIS IS THE TRAGIC REALITY OF WT MIND CONTROL!
  
  Where is the love for the innocent victims?

  Where is the WT GOOD NEWS FOR MANKIND?

  HOW CAN THIS BE GOD'S SPECIAL CHANNEL FOR THE WORLD TO GET SAVED?
  
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  TURN ON CNN: PLANE HIT WORLD TRADE CTR BLDG!!!

  by MadApostate in

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  Winston

  I'm so sorry for the surviving families, what a tragady!
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  Ray Franz

  by Jeremy Bravo in

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  i was talking to jw's that i know about a book that i had read by ray franz.

  they told me that he was disfellowshipped because he was trying to the control the religion and bend it to his will.. i have read crisis of conscience and the first half of in search of christian freedom, and can tell from my heart that this is not the case.

  i see from his examples that he was truly trying to use scripture as his guide.. i am curious of other rumors that are/were circulating through the congregations about him, and on what "basis" they have been spread.

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  Winston

  The rumor spead because when people are afraid of something(what Ray write's about),they need rumors to make them feel they are right for staying with the WT.

  They need rumors so they will never get enough curiousity to investigate.

  They need rumors so they can tell themselves the Society is God's Organization.

  They need rumor because the WT is silent about Ray and why he let.

  They need rumors so they can not get their hopes dashed.

  They need rumors because they won't even beleive that anyone could leave the WT without being guilty of some sin.

  Former elder turned apostate (by WT definition)[:)}and proud of it!
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  Did you ever have an experiance with Holy Spirit?

  by Stealth in

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  i have never felt the intervention of the holy spirit in my life.

  maybe that is one of the reasons i never felt like a good christian.. i think someone can take any situation and say it was the holy spirit acting in their life if they want to believe bad enough.

  i saw my mother do this many times.. anyone here had any experiences that they felt was the holy spirit acting in their lives?

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  Susan,

  You are a Mormon right?

  Former elder turned apostate (by WT definition)[:)}and proud of it!
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  where are all the demon possessed people?

  by sleepy in

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  how come that when jesus was on earth there were so many demon possessd people .. imagine how scared people must have been, creeping down the street wondering whether the next person you met was crased by demons and was going to attack you.. so how did they work out that someone was possessed by demons, who told them?how did they know it wasnt just a disease or other afliction?.

  and were are all those demon possessions today ?.

  you would think that with all the comunication technology today that at least one example of a positivly demon possessed person could be presented to the midia somewere in the world.. or perhaps we cant tell if someone is possessed or not because there are no extra outwould signs and any disease they caused would show up like a normal disease in tests.. maybe we are all possessed and dont know it.

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  I've never seen a ghost but when I was about 14 years old with a freind I played with the ougi board and asked it when I would get married and what would my wife's name be and I was told this:

  I would get married at 23 or 24 I don't remember(I got married four days after I was 23).
  And that my wife's name would be Marion which is correct.

  I think there were some other things like that but never any sightings.

  Former elder turned apostate (by WT definition)[:)}and proud of it!
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  "Mom, I hate the Kingdom Hall"

  by Esmeralda in

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  i think that they are making all this stuff up.".

  this is the breakfast conversation that i had with my five year old daughter this morning.. "oh, really?

  " i said, trying not to choke on my coffee.. "mom, what if i get disfellowshipped someday?

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  Ray Skyhorse,

  You have a lot of good commom sense. I wish I could think as clear as you sometimes.
  Well its irion sharpening irion. Its advice like this that keeps me coming to this board.

  Former elder turned apostate (by WT definition)[:)}and proud of it!
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  So, okay you 'christians', what does God REALLY

  by AGuest in

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  i would exhort you to first ask... and then listen... to the master's voice on the matter, and if you cannot 'hear'... or exercise faith in what you 'hear'... then go to the 'scriptures'.

  for indeed, it is 'written'... in the scriptures.

  it is not, however, 'written' in the letters, histories, chronologies and gospels.

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  Shell,

  Are you saying don't go to the New but go to the Old Testament?
  Is this what your saying?:

  . It is NOT, however, 'written' in the letters, histories, chronologies and gospels. No, you MUST check the 'scriptures' for this one.

  Former elder turned apostate (by WT definition)[:)}and proud of it!
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  Lets make a wager You Know?

  by D wiltshire in

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  you know if you can find one prediction that came true that the society made i will mail you one dylan cd of your choice?.

  i don't mean things like their prediction that the 2nd world war would end, because all wars eventually come to an end.. i mean something substancial.. .

  i'll defend your right to say it, but it doesn't mean i beleive it.

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  Yeah, but he might be lurking?

  Former elder turned apostate (by WT definition)[:)}and proud of it!
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  A Thought for the Day to help us when we post

  by ozziepost in

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  "out of the same mouth come praising and cursing.

  my brothers, this should not be.

  can both fresh water and salt water flow from the same spring?.

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  Ozziepost,

  I think if the Board were all Christian that would be an appropriate verse.
  Since the board is so diversified that expectation is beyond realization.

  But noted: Civility is a worthy goal for our dealings with one another(even when temper flare). Toward witch you induce us, by the Word.

  Former elder turned apostate (by WT definition)[:)}and proud of it!
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  JC FILE NOTES - What do they contain?

  by Amazing in

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  jc file notes - what do they contain?

  jones.. 15. brother smith would tell bro.

  smith noted too that bro.

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  Cassiline,

  You asked:
  

  Dear Amazing & Winston and any other member of this board who were once Elders,
  I was wondering if you shared what you may have learned in a JC with your spouse or friends. I am asking because it always seemed the sisters knew what was happining in the "back room". The gossip was always so bad in my hall/s.
  I am not condemng you by asking this I was/am curious. I am sorry in advance if this question may offend anyone.

  The answer is an embarasing YES!
  But in all honesty it was mainly my wife, she had pretty tight lips and I only told her a small amount of things like when we caught a fellow elder who handled the congregations accounts who had stolen $5000. And when I new someone was a child molester. Their were a few other things but mainly I did not tell very much.
  Elder do talk among themselves and reveal quite a bit of what is happening in their congregation to other elders who are there close freinds.

  Former elder turned apostate (by WT definition)[:)}and proud of it!