Posts by lriddle80

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The epitome of cognitive dissonance

by sir82 in

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it is rare to get such a startling, sparkling, perfect example of this.. here is a snippet of a conversion going on at jwtalk.net regarding israel/gaza:.

http://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/16268-peace-security-news/.

every one who is in the world today and dies tomorrow is in line for a ressurection.this is their best way of being in the new world.

lriddle80

This is what I don't understand, if all you had to do was die to get resurrected, then what was the purpose of Jesus dying?

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The Truth About The Truth goes way way way back before Watchtower?

by Island Man in

here's an interesting excerpt from forged by bart ehrman (pay particular attention to the last sentence):.

"a number of the books of the new testament were disputed already in early christianity, among the christian scholars of the second to the fourth centuries, who were arguing over which books should be included in scripture.. the most famous instance is the book of revelation.

a third-century christian scholar of alexandria, egypt, named dionysius, argued that the book was not actually written by jesuss disciple john, the son of zebedee.

lriddle80

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Well, what can you say???? I am speechless.

by DATA-DOG in

exhibit a:.

awake!

"if you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things.

lriddle80

The problem with that is that they claim to be "Jehovah's mouthpiece" or whatever and are the only ones who Jehovah communicates with. Ok, so if Jehovah is communication with them, why do they keep getting it wrong? Are they just too imperfect to listen correctly? It makes no sense. They tell the people what to believe and say it is from Jehovah, then when it doesn't happen, they say they are imperfect. No. That's not right. That's not the truth.

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An interesting encounter with some sisters today.

by quellycatface in

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when i got up to leave, i went over to their table and said "nice to see you", their faces were a picture.

gemma obviously told them i was da'd.

all i got were tight smiles, so i said to gemma "i like your hair like that" and left......

lriddle80

I was talking to my husband about how sad I am going to be when my mom starts to shun me all the way. Unfriend me on facebook, etc. There really isn't much communiciation other than occaisonally she'll babysit my son and I'll hang out there when I pick him up. I really am so sad to think about it. I cried. So, he suggested that if something like that happens, maybe we could go to their "church." Of course, I told him that if I was DF'd, it would take 6 months before anyone could talk to me if I showed signs of repentence that were good enough for them and also, their religion isn't true. But then we talked about changing it from the inside and maybe my family would listen to me since I was doing it too, pointing out crazy lies from the WT. But then, they'd end up DF me again for apostasy, so it really wouldn't work out. I would just be have to be sad. A song line goes "it's just a broken heart son, this pain will pass away"

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Relationship with Jehovah?

by Batman89 in

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when you were a devout jw.

did you feel that you had an actual "relationship" with jehovah/god just from praying to him and reading the wt or bible?.

or that this was actually even possible deep down?.

lriddle80

I only had one "moment" with God when I was in. Then I left and blocked my self off from noticing his work in my life. Now that I am paying attention and interested in a relationship with him, I see him all over my life. The specific things I talk about with my friend to help her and especially what I am learning about God is how much he loves me and tries to cheer me up. A few examples: I was upset about a contest that I entered and didn't win. The next day a girl brings me a medal for a 5K that I walked in 2 weeks prior...it was 3rd place, but I was just so excited to win something that it didn't matter and I knew God did that. Another example (and these are small examples, but it doesn't take much for me) I went to a party with my husband and I was upset because there wasn't anything there that I knew and people didn't want to talk about things I wanted to talk about (like recipes, exercise, God, etc) and I got really sad (also I had drank too much) and wanted to leave. I felt all alone. The next day my husband and I were talking about a christmas party for my work and how the owner of the company loved my husband and liked him a lot better. So, at Sunday school later that morning, the owner of my work that we were talking about came up to me and mentioned how she loved sitting with us at the christmas party because we were so cute and then she started talking to me about food because she remembered I liked to cook and gave me a health tip that someone shared with her. And there are some stories that I have about conversations that I have with my friend and then the sermon at church was just about word for word what I had shared with her the day before. I have a relationship with him for sure! But before, I just didn't know to search for him like that!

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My JW Mom came for an impromptu visit yesterday. It went great! :)

by Faithful Witness in

it is so nice to start actually believing that my mom wants to have a relationship with me and my kids again.

there was awhile, where it was in question, and she wasn't sure if she was supposed to associate with us or not.

i think the stand that my sister has taken against me, is actually causing my mom to start doubting whether it is a good idea to follow this cruel example of "love" as defined by the watchtower.

lriddle80

This made me a little jealous seeing as how my mom is heading for the shunning road. But then again, you are studying, which would make my mom and dad have sudden approval for me. Like when I went to the memorial, my mom hugged me so tight and told me she loved me and then wanted to invite us over for dinner...

I am glad you were able to give her some things to think about. It gives me hope that I could do that one day with my mom.

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WT's 1914 vs. Jesus Christ's Message on Matthew 24:36 & Acts 1:6

by ProfCNJ in

this striking thought just came into my mind.. our lord jesus christ said: "concerning that day and hour, nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the son, but only the father.

for just as the days of noah were, so the presence of the son of man will be.

" matthew 24: 36-37 (revised new world translation or rnwt).

lriddle80

Great point!! Thanks!!

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A WORLD GOVERNMENT???

by ADJUSTMENTS in

this new tract being released by the jws sounds an alarm!!!

the tract at first glance does not look religious at all!!!

it looks like political information, you have to almost search for the one scripture cited.

lriddle80

It doesn't say if they are for or against a one-world government.

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Dealing with feelings of resentment?

by new hope and happiness in

on the main i have found peace with my watchtower exsperience, but i do have occasional feelings of resentment towards some i feel dissapointed in.

i have tryed to dismiss this with it was my fault for putting these people on a pedestal they didnt belong.

but how deal with these feelings?.

lriddle80

I have that same conflict. I know that I should forgive them because I heard that you can become like the thing that you cannot forgive. This can be seen in my life because I resent the rejection and superior attitude and I have felt superior too. So, I heard if you ask God to help you forgive 5000 times that day, the next day 2456 times, and so on until it is completely gone. Since I still have all my family except for me in still, it's a little difficult, but I just have to pray for them until I have peace. I'll start that tonight and see how it goes. I do love getting on here and seeing all the sarcasm and parodies...I'm not sure if it helps my case, though, but it sure is funny!

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Strike 3 for the elderette and me! (???) I never heard a JW talk SO much about Jesus!

by Faithful Witness in

miss k and her friend miss w arrived promptly today.

our scheduled topic of discussion: jesus' claim to be "the way, the truth and the life..." john 14:6 since she was basing this topic choice on the fact that i had quoted that verse, i'm not sure why... she spent what seemed like a very long time, hopping through scriptures that all said that jesus was the truth, the way, or the life.

ok, so we agreed... i kept waiting for her to get to a point, or sway from this principle.. of course, she summed up with scriptures that show how jesus submits to the father, and what does that mean we should do?

lriddle80

I just want you to keep meeting with her so we can hear your discussions. Great stuff!!