you're out somewhere, shopping maybe or in a restaurant or bus queue, whatever.. you've not been to the meetings for a couple of years, you are now an inactive person.
you might even have da'd yourself or got df'd.. you suddenly realise you are facing or stood next to someone that you know is a jw.
you also know that they know that you were once a jw too.. the person greets you and starts up a conversation with you.
Well, I I had only one chance I would say something similar to 'Been there'.
"After discovering everything that happens behind the scenes, it became clear to me what I should do."
If I had more time, or if I saw the person regularly, I would be very delicate Like E-man.
in the foreword of ray franz's book 'in search of christian freedom', he says: .
"there is yet another, very significant, side to the matter.
many persons seek only a negative freedom.
Amazing Noumenon !!! You have so correctly and completely psychoanalized me and a plethera of others on this site! How do you do it? You know, you could take this show on the road and make $$ Hundreds!
Sniff-sniff I am soo bitter.... I am consumed by it. I am addicted to anti-JW propaganda via the net. The 20 minutes per week I spend here socializing have indeed enslaved me. And yes.... I have 'lapsed'. You are so insightful. Oh how I long for Spiritual Paradise (tm) once again.
Go sell crazy somewhere else.
in order:.
grand theft auto double pack(i really enjoy playing this game).
apex: good racing game, and the graphics are very sharp.
I'm with Tink,
1) Halo
2) Halo
3) Halo
4) Halo
5) Halo II ?
Although I must admit, I am kinda shocked at this ..... coming from a Vegan. You should be trying to save those critters Tink! Remind me to show how a 'meat eater' plays when Halo II comes out for Xbox live.
do any here still believe in paradise earth, blood prohibitions, etc.??
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I still believe wine is good for the stomach
a lot of comparisons have been made between the wts and political dictatorial governments.
some hope that while the political dictatorial governments tend to develop fatal flaws that eventually bring about their demise, the same may be happening in the wts.
while there may be outward similarities between wts and dictatorial regimes, but the inherent political and social power structure is different.
I've thought about this alot lately. I think the assessment of the Bethelite mentioned is probably right on the money. When I was at there it was very political with different personalities competing for advances. Cliques seem to go in and out of favor. Someone who was once in a somewhat prestigious position could be found in a rather menial one if they happened to step on the wrong toes. I personally saw it happen on a number of occasions. I think it would surprise the R&F just how much politics and power come into play at Bethel. That being said I am confident that the latest rash of scandals is likely creating different 'camps'. The last I heard, the legal Dept has been rather vocal (toward the GB) on directional issues.
Outside Bethel I think more and more people are taking what the Society says "with a grain of salt" Look how many people get divorced, disfellowshipped in the Kingdom halls these days. Its so frequent that they are shortly welcomed back as if nothing ever happened. Its like they were sent to the penalty box for a few minutes only to come back into the game as if nothing ever happened. This is a departure from the earlier days of shame (in my opinion). I also think its frustrating to the Society.
does anyone know the scripture that talks about an 'unsuspecting' people who inhabited the promise land?
i was talking with someone about the promise land conquest and how these people were basically slaughtered without warning.
i just can't think of where it is and i don't have a bible with me.
Does anyone know the scripture that talks about an 'unsuspecting' people who inhabited the promise land? I was talking with someone about the promise land conquest and how these people were basically slaughtered without warning. I just can't think of where it is and I don't have a bible with me.
wow that was a strong quake - it shook my a$$ right outa bed!
i frantically stumbled to the bookcase and grasped for one of the watchtowers my mom sent me in the mail.
it got really intense then, and when i looked down my hands were on c of c!
Hey thanks everyone!! I crack myself up too.
Yeah I've listened to all of the doomsday speculations from my folks. I think the first 'scare' was the Gulf war, then Kosovo, Then Gulf war part duex. Any time a political figure mentione the word 'Peace' along with 'security' there was always a bit of excitement.
You'd think they'd figure the whole sham out by now. What a wacky mindset eh? Glad to be out.
wow that was a strong quake - it shook my a$$ right outa bed!
i frantically stumbled to the bookcase and grasped for one of the watchtowers my mom sent me in the mail.
it got really intense then, and when i looked down my hands were on c of c!
| Wow that was a strong quake - it shook my A$$ right outa bed! I frantically stumbled to the bookcase and grasped for one of the Watchtowers my mom sent me in the mail. It got really intense then, and when I looked down my hands were on C of C! The blood red letters were screaming at me and the sight of Ray Franze's name on the cover made me panic! Disgusted I threw the book across the roomed and knocked over the box that housed my old field service book bag. The contents spilled all over the floor. On my hands and knees I saw the field service records I had falsified to cover for the time I was at the Kid Rock concert. I rifled through the bag looking for something to highlight. I opened a thin red book and the scene of Armageddon nearly jumped off the page. I heard the house creaking and knew the Angel of death was hunting me down like the sick Aposto-dog that I am. I ran outside careful to avoid any of the 4 horseman making their rounds. To my extreme relief there was only the ice cream truck driver pulled off the side of the road smoking a joint. Birds were flying over head. I spied a chicken hawk with what looked like an intestine hanging from his beak grinning as he flew by. I swear a saw a couple of crow's giving me the evil eye as they circled about. I knew my time was short. Sobbing pathetically I threw all the money in my pockets into the street. Amazingly the Ice Cream truck driver opened the door, waved away the smoke and said "Wow dude.... was that coool or what"? He then picked up the money and tossed me a Superman pop. I greedily gobbled the treat knowing it would be my last Earthly delight. Then it began. A piercing pain was ripping apart my skull. In utter desperation I dropped to my knees and cried "Please Puulease Gawd noo...I repent, I repent"! Just then the neighbor kid came over and said " you gotta eat them slower mister, or you'll get a headache". In retrospect I think he was a Demon and distracted the Angel who was gripping my skull. I always knew that little bastard was evil. Anyway, the pain subsided and I made a break for it. I took off for the hills and found some rocks to hide me from the impending slaughter. Thank God I opted for the Mobile Email plan on my cell phone. I'm getting pretty good at typing with the number pad but my batteries are running low. If I'm still here in the mourning I'm gonna try to sneak down to the local coffee shop at around 10 am and hook up with the pioneers. I'll just tell them I'm from a neighboring congregation doing some street witnessing when the big A struck. I still remember most of the lingo and I?m forging a blood card out of that Ice cream wrapper I saved. With any luck they will show me where that narrow twisty trail to the New System is. I?m pretty sure I can hop over the gate once I get there. If I only kept one of my ties ? damn! Oh well, I never did like fruit or farming, but I guess that?s better than a gut full of maggots. Plus I?ll be able to finally learn how to play a guitar or build that sailboat I daydreamed about during the public talk. Maybe I?ll volunteer for burial duty near the old video store so I can dig up a few porn DVD?s for when I?m sailing to Fiji. Wish me luck, this won?t be easy. I'm not sure if there is anyone is left out there to read this. If so all I can say is WE SHOULD HAVE LISTENED!!! | ||
whew - this was a strong one - felt all the way south to los angeles.
i called my mom to tell her we were all okay.
she just couldn't resist adding, "oh, bible prophecy coming true!
Wow that was a strong quake - it shook my A$$ right outa bed! I frantically stumbled to the bookcase and grasped for one of the Watchtowers my mom sent me in the mail. It got really intense then, and when I looked down my hands were on C of C! The blood red letters were screaming at me and the sight of Ray Franze's name on the cover made me panic! Disgusted I threw the book across the roomed and knocked over the box that housed my old field service book bag. The contents spilled all over the floor. On my hands and knees I saw the field service records I had falsified to cover for the time I was at the Kid Rock concert. I rifled through the bag looking for something to highlight. I opened a thin red book and the scene of Armageddon nearly jumped off the page. I heard the house creaking and knew the Angel of death was hunting me down like the sick Aposto-dog that I am. I ran outside careful to avoid any of the 4 horseman making their rounds. To my extreme relief there was only the ice cream truck driver pulled off the side of the road smoking a joint. Birds were flying over head. I spied a chicken hawk with what looked like an intestine hanging from his beak grinning as he flew by. I swear a saw a couple of crow's giving me the evil eye as they circled about. I knew my time was short. Sobbing pathetically I threw all the money in my pockets into the street. Amazingly the Ice Cream truck driver opened the door, waved away the smoke and said "Wow dude.... was that coool or what"? He then picked up the money and tossed me a Superman pop. I greedily gobbled the treat knowing it would be my last Earthly delight. Then it began. A piercing pain was ripping apart my skull. In utter desperation I dropped to my knees and cried "Please Puulease Gawd noo...I repent, I repent"! Just then the neighbor kid came over and said " you gotta eat them slower mister, or you'll get a headache". In retrospect I think he was a Demon and distracted the Angel who was gripping my skull. I always knew that little bastard was evil. Anyway, the pain subsided and I made a break for it. I took off for the hills and found some rocks to hide me from the impending slaughter. Thank God I opted for the Mobile Email plan on my cell phone. I'm getting pretty good at typing with the number pad but my batteries are running low.
If I'm still here in the mourning I'm gonna try to sneak down to the local coffee shop at around 10 am and hook up with the pioneers. I'll just tell them I'm from a neighboring congregation doing some street witnessing when the big A struck. I still remember most of the lingo and I?m forging a blood card out of that Ice cream wrapper I saved. With any luck they will show me where that narrow twisty trail to the New System is. I?m pretty sure I can hop over the gate once I get there. If I only kept one of my ties ? damn! Oh well, I never did like fruit or farming, but I guess that?s better than a gut full of maggots. Plus I?ll be able to finally learn how to play a guitar or build that sailboat I daydreamed about during the public talk. Maybe I?ll volunteer for burial duty near the old video store so I can dig up a few porn DVD?s for when I?m sailing to Fiji. Wish me luck, this won?t be easy.
I'm not sure if there is anyone is left out there to read this. If so all I can say is WE SHOULD HAVE LISTENED!!!
hi everyone i'm new to this site and am just looking for some help as to the best way to go about talking to my mother about wts.. i've told her about the hypocrisies of the watchtower and cited some examples where they were wrong including about their association with the.
united nations....but she just yells thats a lie that's a lie..(in spanish)...lol .
she is very dissapointed in me for leaving and says that the only day she will be happy is when i come back to the "truth"..but i'm convinced.
Check out the letter that an elder sent to the Society (on the another elder starting to question thread). Print it out and tell her these issues are starting to bother the friends. That way you take the focus off of you.
