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  Keeping it in perspective

  by Torn in

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  i've just joined up to silentlambs.

  basically i still consider myself a jw, although i'm no longer active.

  i do frequent the odd sunday meeting tho, as i still consider 95% of it to be the truth.

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  Buster

  Tom, welcome.

  You are beginning a period of discovery. Though you will feel much freedom, I hope you are not too disappointed when you startr to feel that there is no baby in the bathwater.

  Good Luck.
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  'Waiting on Jehovah'

  by Dia in

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  isn't this just a pitiful way of saying, 'i can't deal with my anger'....'just be passive and be quiet and don't have any expectations'....'life is just too difficult; count me out'....'i can't have any impact anyway so why should i even try?

  '....and of just sitting somewhere on the very outside and just daydreaming of how god, or maybe even spiderman, is just going to come along one day and then, then really, "i'll show you!

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  Buster

  It means that even if you know better, and even if I/we agree you're right, you're still wrong - so get back in line.
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  Working hard at nothing all day

  by RubyTuesday in

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  im curious as to what some of you do for a living.

  im an office manager for a communications co. in central califonia.

  edited by - rubytuesday on 8 november 2002 17:47:45edited by - rubytuesday on 8 november 2002 17:48:25.

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  Buster

  Manager in a Software Consulting company in the Pacific Northwest.
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  I'm in love with a witness

  by Gig in

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  2. friends

  i'm new to this forum and have been reading all these topics and posts and kind of getting to know some of you.

  i've always purposely avoided anti-witness or ex-witness opinion before but i'm tired and am looking for an end to it all.

  like it says, i am very much in love with a witness, and she is very much in love with me.

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  Buster

  I gotta tell ya, I admire your sincerity. I will leave it to someone else to come up with some logic for reasoning with JWs. But I would like to throw in a point or two:

  1. It will be quite difficult to talk bible and doctrine with her, while trying to get her to see the problems herself. Most of the reasoning that seems so sound to us will seem like warmed over apostacy to an experienced JW. Especially considering that,

  2. Others in the hall can see it coming. JWs are emotionally weak, in that they have settled for not making their own decisions. But they are not stupid. I would bet dollars to doughnuts that they are working her to be on the lookout for you.

  Good luck
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  Practical Change in the Org - How?

  by metatron in

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  moral reform of the organization is nearly impossible because of the stubborn,.

  and cold hearted men who wield power.

  pleading, protesting, and threatening have.

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  Buster

  I think the JWs are made up primarily of two groups: (1) those that want to be told what is black and white, and (2) those that want to do the telling. Put these two groups together in the context of a doomsday set of teaching and you have the Witnesses.

  As discussed in an earlier thread, the key doctrine of the dubs has nothing to do with any scripture. the key teaching is that the Truth is what the GB says it is - today (Not what they said yesterday, and not what they may say tomorrow).

  Nothing else matters. As long there is a supply of emotionally weak people that need to be told right and wrong, then there will always be a supply of emotioanlly weak people that need to tell others what is right and wrong.

  In spite of all our wishes, the WTS is enourmously successful. It has had a mix of leadership that was ideal for getting them through thru various stages of growth - and that is why they stand out today. Moral issues aside for the moment, as an organization, I don't think have all that much of a need for fundamental change.

  As far as individuals, the WTS could care less. They can change direction (new light) and they will lose some. But to them it is no more worrisome than just so much rubber off the tire.
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  Why did YOU want to live forever??

  by Scully in

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  what was it about living forever that appealed to you when you were a jw?.

  was it the idea that you'd have all the time in the world to do whatever you wanted to do?

  were you thinking about travelling the world and seeing it all transformed into a paradise?

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  Buster

  I'll bet that depends on how old you were when you believed it.

  As youngsters, Tim and I thought it would be great to have the time to bicycle around the whole world and climb every tall tree in every forest.
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  Dubs at lunch

  by Mulan in

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  i went out to lunch today with my jw girlfriend.

  we were eating chinese food, and she was telling me all about the co's visit, and complaining quite a lot.

  suddenly the people across from us said "which congregation?

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  Buster

  A couple months ago, my wife were on a weekend trip to Depoe Bay OR. I went to a bookstore and found a copy of a dub book. I figured I'ld give it a read and see how the reasoning is going these days - the Knowledge book.

  At the beach, this woman came up to us and asked us "which congregation?" She told me she saw what I was reading. I told here I was a former Witness. She asked if I was disfellowshipped?

  I told her I didn't really know and that wasn't really reading the book for any scriptural instruction. She left me with a delightfully condescending encouragement to continue studying. Just round it up and it becomes a reporting hour.

  But the fun part came when we were leaving. She, her husband and roughly 5-year-old boy.

  You should have seen it. The boy said or did something (couldn't tell from about 40 feet away) and the daddy reached back and popped the kid right on the side of the face. Next Patty Preacher lunges to daddy, connects with a left that may have loosened a couple teeth. Then she gained her composure, looked over at me staring.

  That moment said so much. I wish we could more easily tell the JWs in the crowd.
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  Please! I need some input.

  by 68storm in

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  i would appreciate some input from the boards most revered jw scholars.

  i am not certain why i feel compelled to have some questions answered by the kremlin (read wts.

  ) maybe that i need final closure in order that i may move on, or i am seeking a little revenge.. first off, a little background on my situation.

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  Buster

  Thats quite a spot you got yourself in. If it was just the three of you, you, her, and the WTS. The solution would be simpler and less painful. But it isn't. First, you won't get anywhere with those Canadian WTS leaders. Forget that completely.

  She took the youngest? Sounds like her claims that you and the other boys are the enemy may put her in a darker shade, at least as far as a court may be concerned.

  For the boys that are of a reasonable age, they'll need to understand tat their mother is sick and under control of a cult -and may not be retrievable.

  Sorry to hear it, and good luck
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  FINISHED MYSTERY p84-86,93

  by badboy in

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  job;40v15-41v34.

  behemoth.

  behold now with great heat[the stationary steam engine]............ loins[boiler plates]........ circle[boiler shell]...... leviathan[the locomotive]..... hook[automative coupler].... snare[couplin-pin].... tongue[couplin-link].... ring[piston]..... nostrils[cyclinders]..... page 93. says nahum 2v3-6 describes a railway train in motion.. `the valiant men[the engineer and the fireman] are dyed scarlet'.

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  Buster

  I've seen some of the off-the-wall stuff in quotes. But when I saw the entire set for sale at Free Minds I just had to have it. I cn't wait to have the whole set of this delusional, self-importance in the Pastor's won words, in its full context. It should be here this week.
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  Describe Your "STATUS" In The Congreg...

  by minimus in

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  if you were to describe what your status was in the congregation, what would it be?

  were you viewed as mature?

  in "good standing", a pain in the rear?

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  Buster

  I think it depends on whom you asked.

  Elders: Problematic little wise-ass that thinks he has a say in how the money is spent just because his dad is the biggest contributor. (Dad wasn't a JW, and mom was a .. a woman that didn't speak up)

  Friends: For some I was a trail-blazer because I took the bulk of the flack - college, opinions, and that stuff. For others, I was the one that didn't get it - just wouldn't hear and obey.

  JW Girls: To this day, they were the best-looking girls I ever went out with.

  JW Girls' Mothers: I did better with them. I think they thought I would be able to take care ot their daughters after college. I never met a more needy group than they.

  JW Girls' Dads (Girls' moms' husbands): A couple came a-lookin' for me (during those periods, I laid low at college)