Topics Started by core
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Franz - Schnell
by core inmany times on this board people post to say a factor in their leaving the wt was having read ray franz book(s) - many years ago william schnell published a book - 30 years a watchtower slave - have never seen this book but was wondering - has anyone read it ?
was it as effective as crisis of conscience in exposing the myth of "the truth"?
- did it have an imact when it was publised?
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Reform or Retire?
by core indo we change our attitude when we get out?
caspian indicated (when he was an active elder over a year ago) how he was working with other like minded elders from within to achieve reform - but like many of us he is now "out" or fading - many others of us thought that change for good could be achieved - have we all moved from that position if we are out - have we given up trying - have we stopped contact with those we though agreed with us - is it easier to just move on?
caspian - do you think that the others you were involved with are still trying to make changes - did you achieve much when you were actively trying to promote decent standards ?
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Borg monitoring of this board
by core inare the borg still monitoring this board (and others)?
if so they seem to be allowing a large amount of time before taking any retributive action.
has anyone heard of any follow thru from the borg from being identified here recently?
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..marriage relationship and normal family affections .... can continue
by core inthose who formally say they do not want to be part of the organization any more are also avoided.
what of a man who is disfellowshipped but whose wife and children are still jehovah's witnesses?
the spiritual ties he had with his family change, but blood ties remain.
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Why the difference in JW approach in US/Canada/UK etc
by core inreading here today a recurring thought came to me - why such huge differences in the organisation approach country by country?
it seems to me that in a lot of cases the actions of the congs/elders/branch in the us is fanatical if not lunatic whereas reports from canada show a milder approach, as with posts re issues in the uk - is this the case and if so what do you thing causes it - .
reading the many elder abuse issues from the us indicates a lot (not all) of the elders there are absolute stark raving mad - power control freaks with little intelligence or learning - are things worse there than in other places?
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Countering claim..."it's only imperfect men.."
by core inhow would you counter the jw response, when faced with major issues (child abuse, autocratic/hypocritical elders, changing doctrines, dates, blood issue, etc etc) ..."yes but it's only imperfect men ..jehovah is using them but will put things right in his own time".
this blindness to reality allows any error to be accounted for and ignored - "wait on jehovah" covers any error .
yet the rank & file swallow this as if it was a logical reasoned answer to the issues raised - is there a way to open the eyes of those who parrot these words when confronted with any issue ?.
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Theocratic Terms Explained.?
by core inremember the old issue in the ministry school guidebook re theocratic terms.
well can i ask for some one to help me with " posting terms explained " .
i know i have had a sheltered life but what do those acronyms mean - btw lol borg (i can guess that one but it could have a number if subtle differences) etc etc i think i can guess some of them but can anyone give some definition to all those odd little expressions used in posts here - which are fine if you know the meaning - but for boring old ***** like me i havent got a clue?
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..Sue the WTS for Loss of Earnings ?
by core inhas anyone considered suing the wt for compensation for loss of earnings?
when i was young we were encouraged instructed to pioneer - sell wts or die (to quote running man) - it was wrong to pursue higher education or a professional career.
many are in a similar position facing old age with dread and have had a life living on far less than if a 'real' job had been taken .
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While the Cats Away.......
by core inhad to miss the barbie due to family commitments.
however - what are you others all doing whilst our revered elder statesman (nearly said elders - sorry) are all away from their screens........?.
with simon, angharad, englishman etc all happily roasting themselves as well as the steak (temperatures are in the 80's f) who is watching the shop and stopping all us children eating all the sweets (or squabbling) ?
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Do You Ever Slip Back into JW auto mode?
by core in.
hearing news on tv about 'peace & security'.........seeing blood sausage in a store............ hearing / reading about hypocrisy exposed in 'worldly religions' .........do you have children at school and instantly react with the immediate no of jw think at every request re after school activities.
do these or other things cause yoiu to momentarily slip back to the thought controlled personality you had with its auto responses.....or have you been able to free yourself from these reactions?