there has always been a hierarchy among elders.
now it's been validated by kenneth flodin in this talk about the word "princes".
so not any elder can be a prince in the new order.
I just gotta sit back, relax, and laugh my ass off at all of this crazy, convoluted, BS that is being spewed by a bunch of clowns who aren't even in touch with the reality of "now", much less the "future".
Who gives a shit about the Elders? Like someone said above, none of THEM gave their lives and blood as a sacrifice for my human imperfections, so F' em'!
well it finally happened!
we have been waiting about a year for this, my dfd husbands family asked us for money.
even though his own father hasn't met our 8 month old son.
You are opening yourself up for more hurt if you give them $$$. The audacity! I would tell them to go ask for a loan from their "spiritual family", because after all, "Jehovah provides." I'm sure their loving Elders will gladly help them out!! Really, tell them to "go forth, be warm, and well fed."
My philosophy in life: I reciprocate what I receive.
Those shunning clowns wouldn't get one single nickel out of me. They'll take your money with no so much as a "thank you", then claim to their friends that it was Jehovah that provided for them. Then, they'll conveniently forget to pay you back, then shun you when you ask for it repaid.
I swear, if you loan them that money, you'll really get a taste of their "Christian Love". Don't do it! Like Nancy Reagan used to say, "Just say NO."
if you have watched the march broadcast you will understand the topic title.
another propaganda piece intended to subtly blame the victim.
i would like to see them present a clip showing an arrogant self righteous elder interfering in the personal affairs of a family.
"I am now watching as my wife comes to the realization that these people are shallow and unloving UNLESS you behave according to their agenda."
BINGO! Unless you keep your mouth shut, tow the party line, and don't dare to speak up about the emotional, spiritual, and sometimes physical abuse you've seen or experienced, then you aren't part of the JW club. They can have it! And like someone else said above, once you see the TTATT, you cannot "un-see" it. And once your eyes have been opened, you are repulsed at the sight of the "disgusting thing."
hello all i am fairly new to this site even though i have been da since i was 16 years old i am now 35 years old.
i have had very little contact with my family since i left maybe a handful of times over the years.
i thought i put the past behind me and moved on i have 4 amazing kids of my own really supportive partner and great friends who have become my family.
if you look at the facts and history of both of these religions , you do see a similarity , not only in belief , but also the timing of their origins.
end times ., paradise earth ( similar to the christadephians , baptists ,and other end times religions ) etc.. the jehovah`s witnesses s put a lot of weight on everybody doing door to door work in the ministry .and counting the time spent doing so.. the seventh day adventists do a fraction of the time doing door to door ministry by everybody in their religion , if they even require every body to go d2d and count their time.
i do not know.. what i do know is that the s.d.a.`s have more than twice the number of active believers than the j.w.`s do , over a similar time of history .. so does that not indicate conclusively that the god of the bible is blessing the s.d.a.`s over the j.w.`s ?
if you look at the facts and history of both of these religions , you do see a similarity , not only in belief , but also the timing of their origins.
end times ., paradise earth ( similar to the christadephians , baptists ,and other end times religions ) etc.. the jehovah`s witnesses s put a lot of weight on everybody doing door to door work in the ministry .and counting the time spent doing so.. the seventh day adventists do a fraction of the time doing door to door ministry by everybody in their religion , if they even require every body to go d2d and count their time.
i do not know.. what i do know is that the s.d.a.`s have more than twice the number of active believers than the j.w.`s do , over a similar time of history .. so does that not indicate conclusively that the god of the bible is blessing the s.d.a.`s over the j.w.`s ?
I thought this for a long time. The same could be said for another 1800's cult - Mormonism. (LDS)
When I was early out of the JW's, I felt the need to research their history, etc. I came across Seventh Day Adventists. I liked what I saw, and that the belief structure was similar, but not as strict. I too liked that unlike JW's, SDA's have hospitals, schools, private schools for children, charities, and outreach programs. They have abandoned some of the more whacky Ellen White prophetic nonsense. (think Millerite/Russell crap) However, upon even closer inspection I saw the same Pharasitical pattern of strict rules, odd/whacky beliefs, authoritarian dictates, Mosaic rules/laws, and familiar end-times apocalyptic literature. (yeah, they have stands at county fairs too with this same type of crap!!!). This combined with a similar Ex-SDA online presence was enough to send me running for the hills. Guess what? They also practice SHUNNING, though they'll flat out deny it, just like the JW's try and gloss it over. I'd never get involved with them now that I've done my homework.
the death of a cult leader.
the gaudy and ostentatiousness of the proceedings following the death of charles taze russell is really interesting to look at.
i can't decide if it is further proof of how much of a cult they were, even back then, or how much they are just like other religions, like the catholics.
What a far cry from the little bit of NOTHING that regular rank and file JW's get at their "Memorial Talk".
5 minutes about the abused.......errrr......deceased, then 45 minutes of a WT recruitment informercial from a WT HQ approved "outline."
Absolutely disgusting! As for Russell or any of the other WT leaders "funerals", can you say, "Create Worship? Idolatry?" I knew you could.
only a few days ago i was walking around the house in a mindless wander thinking if i needed to seek professional help.
then i got the courage to seek the comfort of complete strangers on the internet and found a world of support here on this website.
thank you simon and whoever else has made this website possible.
it is announced for sunday afternoon.
i am just wondering if it is a local thing or national.
thursday, march 3. they were uneducated and ordinary men.—acts 4:13.. in recent years, the spiritual instruction provided by jehovah’s organization has reflected an increased emphasis on simplicity and clarity.
consider three examples.
first, there is the simplified edition of the watchtower.
