apparently they never got my letter which i sent like a year ago.
i had corresponded with them by e-mail to ask them if i was 'announced' from the platform but the po was unaware.
now, they want me to send letter, again.
I think you should tell us more of your experiences working in Bethel, Walkill, etc. We'd love to hear about them.
As for mailing the letter.....who cares? I'd let them waste their time trying to catch me doing stuff instead of trying to convert other unsuspecting victims.
- Wing Commander
hey guys.
yet another n00b here in your midst.
let's see here.....i'm about to hit the big 22, and i just came from nc to the steel city.
Welcome!!
You've moved to a neat little PA city, I've been there several times. (I'm near Harrisburg) You also have put yourself into a neat position - to be able to go and visit C.T. Russell's grave!! Yes, it's right there in Alleghany County! The Bible Students have their own cemetary, and CT Russell's grave is a real treat, as it has a pyramid right on top of it with his name on it and everything!
If you've ever doubted that you were in a cult, a drive up to that creepy cemetary and a look around at his gravesite will convince you how pagan the origins of the WTBTS really are.
Regards,
Wing Commander
visiting my mum she made me go to my first meeting in years.
a brother i studied with invites me to dinner....nice change i thought!
rumor has it that i have become in-active....true!
First off, I will say that I am a Christian and therefore believe that Armaggedon will indeed come at some point in time. If it is prophecized in the Bible, it will happen. That is my belief. Therefore, during either the Great Tribulation or Armaggedon, I do believe the accounts in Revelations that state people will submit to a kind of madness, so that they will beat upon themselves, fight each other, etc.
Now that that is out of the way, let me address GB Member Herd. I feel it is ok to talk about how things might be at the End based upon the Bible, but to actually induce this kind of fear-induced paronia is lunacy, and outright irresponsible. Actually claiming that the wicked will be blaming "college professors" for their spiritual problems is ludicrous, and it shows just how far their fear of education has come. Is there any wonder they have the CO's orally distributing their updated policy against any education?????
If this were played to any normal person, and then they were told that they HAD to listen and obey GB Member Herd, they would run for the hills! I mean, this is lunacy.....this is nearing Jim Jones paronia here.......how far off can the Kool-Aid be based upon what we are hearing coming out of New York? To whip everyone up into a fear-based frenzy about the end of the world is not what Jesus had in mind I believe. Destruction of mankinds rule as a good thing? Sure, because I'm sure we'd all like to see God's Kingdom ruling justly for ever and ever. I got no problem with that. Going into outlandish, completely hypothetical diatribe about WHO or what exactly will happen? Pure speculation and irresponsible. Who do there old loons think they are? Oh thats right, Brothers and Heirs with Christ Jesus. Wow.
My brain would hurt if I had to listen to an entire talk based upon this. If I were in an auditorium during this, I'd have to be looking around at other people wondering why they aren't getting up to leave as well. This is some freaky shit right here.
- Wing Commander
read and weep.
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/exclusive-no-ice-at-the-north-pole-855406.html.
I expected this to happen myself before 2010.
Greenland is already melting a good fast rate, and I believe it's speeding up. Parts of southeast Asia and Indonesia are already losing FEET of beaches, whole islands, etc.
Iceland is cool!!
- Wing Commander
if you were raised a jehovah's witness ... would it be better to:.
1. stay in the organization and continue to be controlled.
the years will be spent earning your salvation into "paradise earth" without cease.
Wow.....just wow. Actual written evidence of a raving lunatic Watchtower policy.
The point of it all: Keep the masses dumb, so they are more easily manipulated and controlled.
Even though I've been out for several years, I guess I still didn't want to believe it was a cult. This truly nails it for me. It fits Steve Hassan's B.I.T.E. model to a "T"
B = Behavior Control
I = Information Control
T = Thought Control
E = Emotional Control
I mean, they've always FROWNED upon education, but this written outright denial of education is outright lunacy and is not based on the Bible at all. Where in the Bible does it state that one must be dumb and ignorant as qualifications to enter God's Kingdom? This is outlandish, and I really wish the media would pick up on this.
- Wing Commander
This is easy.....it's Journey.
- Wing Commander
for those of you who followed my weight watchers thread (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/157445/1.ashx) ... i am so excited to announce that this week i hit the 10 kg mark (22lbs) .
this is going so well and i am feeling very proud of myself, and also looking a lot better.. .
Congrats on the weight loss. Everyone needs a goal. I've lost 31 pounds since January of '06. I want to loose another 13 lbs.
Best of luck! Weight Watchers is very good, and that is what I'm sticking to for the most part, besides regularily going to the gym.
- Wing Commander
my husband and i left the org about 6 months ago and in voicing our views we were shunned.
the elders who were 'friends' treated us with cold efficiency to the letter of their law.
one older elder played 'good cop' and invited us over for a heart-to-heart.
Good for you! You are damn lucky to not have to worry about family still in, etc. I am in a similar situation, as I was raised in the Truth, but never baptized. Both my parents passed away. The JW's couldn't give 2 shits about me. I might as well be dead to them as well. They are useless, and their cold-heartedness clearly shows through.
By their Love you shall know them........
- Wing Commander
sorry if i seem a bit outta sorts, but +#'* me i have had a bad time these past months.
i honestly thought i was condemned to die (deep down i still think i am).
i left the borg about a year ago with my wife and family all intact (or so i thought).
Greetings!
I'm glad to see you at least posting your feelings and experience. I don't know your whole situation, but do you still believe in God/Yahweh? For me, as I still believe in Him, my anxiety etc came from the realization that everything I had known, done, experienced was all a lie. I was not mad at God or Jesus; I did not feel they betrayed me in any fashion. I think once you can get your head around the fact that PEOPLE / an Organization did this to you, and not God, then you can recover more quickly.
If however you are becoming an aitheist and don't believe in God at all anymore, than I can see how this has you in knots.
As I said, for me the stress of learning everything at once (domino effect) was very sickening - I mean that literally. I had read stuff on the internet of course, but when I watched "Witnesses of Jehovah" on Youtube and saw everything put together, and the fact that the movie was over 20 years old, I actually became physically sick. It was like getting punched hard in the upper gut. I wished so badly that my parents would have learned everything that I had learned and that they would have gotten out in time to spare me a horrible JW childhood filled with despair and loneliness. I can't say I blame them though, and my mother did apologize before she died, after finding out the "Truth" herself. :(
I hope therapy helps you. Drugs really only gloss over your symptoms and not the inner turmoil. It will get better with time.
Regards,
Wing Commander
for the last 5 and 1/2 weeks i have been at the gym mostly twice a day except saturdays - i only have one training session.
each of my sessions is at least an hour long but can go for two hours.
i do various cardio in the evenings and do strength training in the morning.
I started exercising when I was 19, after my father was discovered to have col-rectal cancer. When asked how he got this, the surgeon plainly told us that Americans eat too much junk; BBQ, grilled foods, too much red meat, pork, fast food, high salt intake, and they don't exercise enough. My father was large (300+ lbs, 6'-1" tall). He succombed to cancer 9 months later. It was horrible.
Even though I was young and rail thin (19 yrs old, 6'-2", 190lbs), I decided then and there I would change. I exercise 3 times a week, 1-1/2 hours at a time. I do 30 minutes of cardio, 10 of abs, nearly and hour of strenght training. I also do one solid day of cardio - 60 minutes, plus ab workout. A few years ago, I had a summer off. I decided to bulk up as big as I could get, and I did - topping 260 lbs. by working out 5 days a week for 3 hours a day. Then I started work again...some of that muscle turned to fat, as I couldn't work out 3 hours a day to maintain the muscle. Slowly, I have added more cardio and am now down to a trimmer, more toned, 236 lbs. I am going to work my way down to 220 lbs, my prime. I've lost 10 lbs since May, and am doing good.
Working out is great, makes you feel great, is a treat to the cardiovascular system, and should be encouraged. Your body is a temple, better keep it in working order. Too bad JW's only live for another lifetime and not this one, none that I knew ever worked out - it took away from door knocking. Aaack.
- Wing Commander
