I was in the bank the other day, and a saw security officer going out to the back of the bank, to collect the cash. He didn’t carry a gun. In fact law enforcement are not allowed to carry guns on their person. I can’t see that been the case in the future. But it drove home to me how blessed I am to live in the country that I do. There are stringent laws around gun ownership. Politically and economically the country is strong, with low levels of corruption. A doctors visit the other day Cost me $US12, and the prescription was free. It’s usually listed as one of the top 5 places in the world in which to live. As far as I’m concerned Americans and Europeans can stay where they are.
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Hello from the UK
by KIMSILVIO ini am still on my holiday around the uk and currently am in the midlands if anyone is around i’d love to catch up - hope you are all well xx.
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Tried to warn another mum
by DarleneGatus inthe thing that broke me was that i tried to warn another mum in the congregation about a brother who was inappropriate with my son, which upset me, and so i called her to talk about it since we both knew him and i had also seen him pin her daughter down on the sofa and slap the girl's bottom.
i called it inappropriate, but i never accused him of anything beyond that.. unfortunately, word got back to him and i had to go in front of 3 elders, including the brother who i felt had been inappropriate.
because they came down on me for trying to stop the behavior, and not on him for being the cause of upset, i felt very hurt and started questioning more things.
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joe134cd
One thing is for sure. That guy will be thinking a bit harder about his actions the next time around.
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How Many Of You Knew Something Was Really Wrong Growing Up JW? What was Your First Clue?
by Sea Breeze inthis is directed to born-ins.
around age 10 or 12 is when it first hit me.
i started asking questions about how the world worked and i really wanted an honest opinion from my parents.
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I went for a about 15 years as a PIMI believing that Christ died upon a cross, after I was challenged on a door about it. There is just to much evidence to suggest otherwise. I just wish it had been the thing to motivate me to leave.
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Bill & Joan Cetnar Expose Watchtower Claims
by Sea Breeze inin this classic interview with john ankerberg, bill and joan cetnar expose many outlandish watchtower claims.
it is a major part of ex-jw history.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcwrmtfdeji&t=709s&ab_channel=mr.alithea .
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Just curious but are they still alive.
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Do you think the JW's ever will or could go the Mormon route?
by BettyHumpter inwhat i mean is the mormon's have their own set of wacky beliefs and are a pretty insular group, engage in a form of door to door ministry but don't discourage higher education.
in fact, the handful of mormons i went to school with were pushed to excel academically and go to college.
yeah there are ex mormons but for a great many, going to university doesn't turn them into atheists.
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joe134cd
In a monetary sense the, LDS will outlast the JWs.
About pay rolling? If you watch that video. The comment was made that the LDS could pay each member $US7000 annually just to turn up to church, and it could still survive.
Many here unjustly claim that Wt is primarily about the money. But when compared to the LDS. There wealth of a couple billion dollars is very modest indeed.
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Do you think the JW's ever will or could go the Mormon route?
by BettyHumpter inwhat i mean is the mormon's have their own set of wacky beliefs and are a pretty insular group, engage in a form of door to door ministry but don't discourage higher education.
in fact, the handful of mormons i went to school with were pushed to excel academically and go to college.
yeah there are ex mormons but for a great many, going to university doesn't turn them into atheists.
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Smiles - the LDS is more a multinational company, than what it is a religion. There could be fewer than 1.5 million, temple recommend holders. To hold a temple recommend would be the equivalent of a baptised, full believing, Pioneer in JWland.
The LDS is the wealthiest religion on the planet. Close to a trillion dollars.
The 2 religions, have 2 different problems. JWs will probably run out of money before they run out of members. Where as the LDS will probably run out of members before it runs out of money. The LDS is not dependent on membership donations. Even if the religion side of the LDS collapsed. It could carry on as a corporation for many years.
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Do you think the JW's ever will or could go the Mormon route?
by BettyHumpter inwhat i mean is the mormon's have their own set of wacky beliefs and are a pretty insular group, engage in a form of door to door ministry but don't discourage higher education.
in fact, the handful of mormons i went to school with were pushed to excel academically and go to college.
yeah there are ex mormons but for a great many, going to university doesn't turn them into atheists.
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Mormons make JWs look like the true religion. I mean that sincerely
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Do you think the JW's ever will or could go the Mormon route?
by BettyHumpter inwhat i mean is the mormon's have their own set of wacky beliefs and are a pretty insular group, engage in a form of door to door ministry but don't discourage higher education.
in fact, the handful of mormons i went to school with were pushed to excel academically and go to college.
yeah there are ex mormons but for a great many, going to university doesn't turn them into atheists.
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Smiles - I love this argument. I’ve argued this point extensively, in the past, and the idea that the Mormon church is bigger is simply not true. Even with a 50% JW PIMO rate they would probably break even with LDS membership. Please read the following links.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5748058095616000/jws-bigger-more-successful-mormon-church?page=5
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5926017217593344/lds-statistics-extension-may-suggest-that-jws-could-bigger-more-engaged-membership
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Do you think the JW's ever will or could go the Mormon route?
by BettyHumpter inwhat i mean is the mormon's have their own set of wacky beliefs and are a pretty insular group, engage in a form of door to door ministry but don't discourage higher education.
in fact, the handful of mormons i went to school with were pushed to excel academically and go to college.
yeah there are ex mormons but for a great many, going to university doesn't turn them into atheists.
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Why would JWs want to go the Mormon route. They already have a bigger more engaged following. In the present situation, with covid, they have feared better than the LDS. -
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10 years on and I’m still indoctrinated
by joe134cd inthis experience highlights the level of my indoctrination, after 10 years of been a pomo.
a few months back my gf was hinting to me about what we could do for my birthday.
to be honest i just had no idea, that i even had a birthday.
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joe134cd
This experience highlights the level of my indoctrination, after 10 years of been a POMO. A few months back my GF was hinting to me about what we could do for my birthday. To be honest I just had no idea, that I even had a birthday. It wasn’t until she frustratingly came out and stated to me it was my birthday that I realised what was going on. Although she was understanding, she felt as though I didn’t want to shear this occasion with her. I guess it just goes to show the different mindsets.
Although I never stated this to her, I really can’t be bothered with birthdays and Christmas. I actually see this as an advantage of been a former JW. I kind of feel embarrassed having a Birthday. But I conceded to a restaurant meal. It goes to show the level of my conditioning.