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toughest question anyone can ask, if the love of your life, and mate/wife/husband/boyfriend/girlfriend messed around on you, whether it be once or for years, how would you handle it and what would you do, think about it slowly and carefully.. wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy.. it's said that 50 % of marriages are affected by an affair, it's probaly alot higher.. did you notice any affairs in your congregation ???.
i look back now, and think, oh yeah there was.
There's two votes from the Caring professions - one from aneuro-surgeonarrogant b*stard and one from anNHS managercorporate b*stard.
Sorry LT, I had to correct your job titles.
On topic - brief counselling has made a real difference to two marriages of friends. Give it a whirl.
i just read david_10's thread "my mother died..." 13 years ago i called my mother, after i had left the lie because i'm gay.
i hadn't been disfellowshipped at that point, but she told me she didn't want to keep in contact because "being homosexual is one of the worst things.
" i told her ok and have never tried to contact her again.
Chris
The letter thing... I dunno. It sounds like she's had plenty of time to reflect upon her life, how she raised and ultimately rejected you, so a letter outlining the reasons you feel hurt is unlikely to soften her, more like harden her resolve. And possibly expose yourself to her scorn. The ball's in her court and the only letter I'd write was with my address so that she could then contact me if she had changed her stance.
If your life is good without her, that's the price she's paid. Keep on living it.
..just wondering.. i'd thought of maybe visiting somewhere like turkey later this year.
i believe it's absolutely stunning.
plus, the people are said to be very pleasant too.
Mike
You'll be made welcome and will be as safe as you are in England. It makes me sad that due to our skewed perceptions the question even arises.
there are often threads about pop/rock music...but do you listen to classical or other genres.
so whats your fave...classical piece....opera...ballet...musical.
me... classical....tchaikovsky...1812 overture.
I didn't think I needed to, Swan Lake said it all.
i've been having several outbreaks of conspiracy theories lately and a wierd one that came to mind was if anyone has ever met minimus in person before?
think about it....what better way is there to gather intel on a rather large group of ex and current jw's than to ask detailed questions on every facet of your life?
typically, someone that has over a few thousand posts has been to a meetup of some sort, even a small one.
I recall a time whem Min accused me, IT Support, LT and Caspian of being the same person. WT HQ may be stoopid, but...
there are often threads about pop/rock music...but do you listen to classical or other genres.
so whats your fave...classical piece....opera...ballet...musical.
me... classical....tchaikovsky...1812 overture.
classical....Bruch's violin concerto, Arvo Part's Miserere, Rachmaninov's piano 2, Beethoven's piano 5, Rautavaraa's Cantus Articus, Bach's St Matthew... the list is endless.
opera.... Puccini's Gianni Schicchi & Poulenc's Dialogue of the Carmelites
ballet...Ohad Naharin's minus16
musical....Fiddler on the Roof or maybe Beauty and the Beast - you cannot beat Be Our Guest.
Pretentious? Moi?!
all of us were born in the 1900's.
during this past century, the earth has been incredibly impacted, and societies around the world have been irrevocably altered.. everyone has been powerfully influenced- at the individual level, the family level, the community level, the regional level, national level and global level.
in fact, we could say that most of this actually defines who we are, and how we see ourselves and others.. one of the problems is, how do we make sense of where we actually fit in history.
LT
It's the Noughties. I would have thought you'd know, but then I did see a confession to listening to Europe 5,4,3,2....
i recently gave a public talk, and i really felt bad about it.. it was the public talk about the great flood of noahs days.
the is so much evidence that this great deluge never happened, but that is something you can't tell the audience from the stage.
(i will tell about that evidence if people are interested, but it is a bit off-topic now).
DB
Like you I cruised along without a belief in god, thinking I was helping people with a hope even if it was an illusion. But eventually the hypocrisy became too much and I realized that there were more helpful things than shepherding, conducting the watchtower study or the ministry school. Slow fade or sharp stop, you'll lose friends and family either way but you'll most likely be a lot more content. Good luck.
well i had written up 30 or so questions for the elders.
i made it very easy.
ther were mostly simple questions with yes or no answers.
If Witnesses are asked any questions that seem to be even slightly informed they suspect contact with apostates. And of course, they are usually correct.
would you go to a funeral at a kingdom hall?
would it have to be someone that is very close family or just an acquaintance?.
i dont know that jw funerals really off ther much closer and point blank i can not think of a single person i would go to the hall for.
No I wouldn't go to a Witness funeral, wherever it was. I went to one a year after I left the Witnesses and most of the attendees were from families I'd grown up with, my ex best friends. They were friendly but at a distance and that in itself was depressing. While I don't attend funerals I do usually write to friends who's relative has died.
When members of my immediate family die I wont attend their funerals only to have my grief compounded by facing individuals who cut me from their lives. I've agreed with my mother that I'll scatter her ashes. My goodbye to her wont require an audience.
Oh, and happy birthday Delilah!
