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  DON'T GIVE JEHOVAH WITNESSES A BREAK

  by Iwasyoungonce in

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  it has almost always been my experience that when encountering a jehovah witness with sword drawn to defend relgion the first demand is to establish what clan (relgion) i have been branded with.

  thus the nit picking of my faith can take place.

  like a tit for tat.

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  heathen,

  Good point I did not mean to troll.

  Thanks,

  Jay
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  Whining....

  by Vivamus in

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  who do you whine to?

  i use my mum to tell all my problems to.

  i'll phone her, write her, haunt her down if i want to get anything of my chest.

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  I think that it might be in Africa where when you have a "gossip" or problems you get a goat and whisper your woes to it. Then they take it out and kill it. Problem solved.

  I'll have to look it up again.

  (Edit for spelling)

  Edited by - Iwasyoungonce on 27 November 2002 14:34:49
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  DON'T GIVE JEHOVAH WITNESSES A BREAK

  by Iwasyoungonce in

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  it has almost always been my experience that when encountering a jehovah witness with sword drawn to defend relgion the first demand is to establish what clan (relgion) i have been branded with.

  thus the nit picking of my faith can take place.

  like a tit for tat.

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  It has almost always been my experience that when encountering a Jehovah Witness with sword drawn to defend relgion the first demand is to establish what clan (relgion) I have been branded with. Thus the nit picking of my faith can take place. Like a tit for tat. Catholic's, Islam, Judism, they all have flaws. All relgions do. Like people, none are perfect. (Thank goodness)

  There in lays the defeat of all Jehovah Witnesses propaganda. There is no perfection. No perfect truth, and that is a good thing. Faith is something that is free. There is no price but acceptance. But all to often relgion gives a licence through babtism where if you keep the domga (faith) then you have permission to have faith. Well, that is not true faith. That is not free. There is a price tag, Your free will.

  So the point. "IF" you claim to have the " exclusive true faith through relgion" (which there is no such external thing) then you have to be correct in it. It does not matter what I think. My religion, my FAITH is not relevant because you have established that only yours matters. You think that you are already right. If my faith is not recocognized as equal, it is like me not being recognied. I am not equal. So give the Jehovah Witnesses the break they deserve. NONE! You owe them nothing. I think that evil people should be left to themselves. And we owe it to each other to support each other and, not be in a bid to control each other. "Compelled to Control," That is a sorry life indeed.

  Edited by - Iwasyoungonce on 27 November 2002 14:4:19
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  Should I "come out" to my JW mum?

  by Sirona in

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  first of all, i'm not gay so its not *that* sort of coming out.

  question is: "should i tell my jw mum that i am now a pagan"?.

  i'm one of those unusual (stupid?

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  Sirona,

  Are you ashamed of being pagan? Evil-The willful intent to do harm to another be it mental or physical; Is this what you desire towards your Mum? Or, is it what you wish to spare her from?

  It's the latter (right?) You don't want to hurt your Mum. That's a good thing. But, In doing so you have to pretend to be someone and something that your not. You have to hide your friends and your belifes. You are not letting you be who you are. Thus, you are not respecting yourself.

  Is the price of the lie worth the price that you pay in a lower self-perception worth the payoff of the lie of a relationship with your mother?

  Hope you find a happy place to be with all this.

  Jay
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  Report on news coverage in DALLAS!!!!

  by Jesika in

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  well, all i can say is wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  they have been preparing everyone by way on tv and radio on the sexual abuse in the jw religion.

  they had a small piece on the 6 o'clock news with a small interview with bill bowen.

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  (((Jes)))

  Sometimes things go good, yes? Hugs to your son.
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  So, am I a phoney?

  by kenpodragon in

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  i have taken a break from the baby wait to come to the board and see what is happening.

  recently i had a run in with some people from another board, that also attend this board.

  in a search of my name on this site, i see that people (two weeks later) are still mentioning this and me.

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  1 st 5 days over due, (((WAITER, CHECK PLEASE!)))

  I don't know what you did "somewhere" else but from what I know about you Ken you pretending to be someone or something else would seem very out of character for you. If you think that you might have been "phony" whom do you think that you were? (One is entitled to get angry. And, One is entitled to vent. No one is entitled to intentionally hurt other people.)

  I agree with you about imperfection. When we strive for perfection we begin mixing the ingredients to become delusional. You seem to be hinting on the needful and healthy actions produced through expressing patriotism for individualism. (Not Nationalism.)

  One thing you "hit the nail" on was supporting abuse victims. Me too. One thing on my mind has been; what am I doing? Why am I doing it? What is my payoff?

  Know this, the credit card I use for lamb donations is rejecting online usage. (No one knows why.) When I clear it up (or use another card for online) I will still make my monthly donations. I have collected my lambs for the European march and will be sending some "Lamb" candle molds I found. (Anyone know a candle maker?)

  I no longer post at the SL chat forum. There is a very ikky element there that has made me not want to be there. I am not going to go into detail about it because if others like it then so be it. It does not mean that I do not support abuse victims. It does not mean that I have abandoned anyone. (As some have suggested.) I see us all as brothers in the stance against the WTBS. And, the same goes for standing against "rapists." What I'm doing is looking and pondering what else I can do. As there is life outside the Watchtower there is also help outside of Silentlambs. (That in no way is a put-down to the Silentlambs movement. As I learn more about resources I can share that information with those who need it.) I want to be as effective as I can. Issues that involve cults can become all consuming about the cult. They (cults) are designed to do that. So not limiting yourself to one style is good. (I have been contacted by my local Rape & Domestic Violence Center. I will be sponsoring at least one family for the Holidays. And my local involvement to help people in my neck of the woods is just getting ready to be born.)

  You stated your Martial Arts Ken, Good for you! (I admire your dedication to yourself.) As for "controlling" your emotions, for me, that is like trying to grab water. The harder you squeeze the more it justs slips though your fingers and the less you can hold. I am gentle with my emotions. And, I am honest about them. That is strength and not a weakness. Do you agree? The thing about the physical side of your black belt is kinda like my S&W.40. IRL it can knock your block off. But, as for cyber-space it is of little use. (Unless you decide to smash the computer.) I do get your point though Ken. You have massive self-control. And it shows everytime you express yourself.

  Are you sure that you were attacked for your views? Are you sure that it was for not conforming to some other's perception of a politically correct view? Ken I do not see you as my leader but as a friend. Someone whose "thoughts" offer me much to learn from. I have never read where you told me what to think. I have read and then I thought. (Thank You)

  I do not see the problem with a lack of "Mea Culpa" as wimp mentality. A lot of witnesses would see my kicking ass as a tribute to their god. They would love that they took away my self contol. Apologizing for hurting someone means that they should change their behavior or, the apology is meaningless. For them to change someone must force them to. Otherwise they would have to take responsibility for their actions, and that is unacceptable. (Too many people can do everything to show regret but saying "I'm sorry, my bad" On that note, words can kill; they can inflict pain as real as any bullet or punch. Words start wars. Words can be real as any action.

  I think that what people say and do shows who they are. If what one says or does compromises my integrity I will stand up for myself. The prices of some relationships are too high. I hope to never believe the need to burn the "KenpoDragon Bridge." Ken you are a good person.

  Jay
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  Dear Tech Support

  by Iwasyoungonce in

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  last year i upgraded from boyfriend 5.0 to husband 1.0 and noticed a. .

  slow down in the overall performance, particularly in the flower.

  and jewelry applications that had operated flawlessly under boyfriend.

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  Dear Tech Support:
  
  
  Last year I upgraded from Boyfriend 5.0 to Husband 1.0 and noticed a
  
  slow down in the overall performance, particularly in the flower
  
  and jewelry applications that had operated flawlessly under Boyfriend
  
  5.0. In addition, Husband 1..0 uninstalled many other valuable programs,
  
  such as Romance 9.5 and Personal Attention 6.5, but installed
  
  undesirable programs such as NFL 5.0 and NBA 3.0 . And now
  
  Conversation 8.0 no longer runs and Housecleaning 2.6 simply
  
  crashes the system. I've tried running Nagging 5.3 to fix these
  
  problems, but to no avail.
  
  What can I do?
  
  Desperate
  
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  Dear Desperate:
  
  First keep in mind, Boyfriend 5.0 is an entertainment package, while
  
  Husband 1.0 is an operating system. Try to enter the command: C:/I
  
  THOUGHT YOU LOVED ME and download Tears 6.2 to install Guilt 3.0.. If
  
  all works as designed, Husband 1.0 should then automatically run
  
  the applications Jewelry 2.0 and Flowers 3.5.
  
  
  
  
  
  Silence 2.5, Happy Hour 7.0, or Beer 6.1. Beer 6.1 is a very bad
  
  program that will create Snoring Loudly. WAV files.
  
  
  
  
  
  another Boyfriend program. These are not supported applications and
  
  will crash Husband 1.0.
  
  
  
  
  
  limited memory and cannot learn new applications quickly. You might
  
  consider buying additional software to improve memory and
  
  performance. I personally recommend Hot Food 3.0 and Lingerie 7.7.
  
  
  
  
  
  Tech Support
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  question for parents

  by musky in

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  i have small children.

  i was raised a witness, so i never celebrated holidays.

  now, i don't go to meetings, don't agree that the watchtower is jehovahs sole channel of communication.

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  musky,

  By the way in your pic...in your hand...Is that you having a discussion with um someone? Repellant? lolDoes it work?
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  Discussion With My Dad...Ended Badly.

  by Valis in

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  some of you may know that my parents were expected for "dinner" on thanksgiving day.

  well i really don't think its going to happen now.

  i called my dad last night becuase my mother, now visiting my kids in south texas and bringing them here to see me, said they had "stuff to do on thursday".

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  Valis,

  Do you feel better having it all out?

  It's kind of like surgery. If you have a cancer sometimes you need to have it removed. Now your position is clear. There is little turning back. I took your route with my jw family. They would not listen to me for over a year. Finally I wrote a letter expressing my feelings and my view of the jw's. Maybe I should post it. My family then started attacking and I stood my ground; Like you. But after one round I saw it as futile. I really don't like these people. They are shallow and backbiters. I have talked to the rest of the family and they said that my inlaws were like this even before the cult. There they are among others just like them. They have no respect for anyone and demand it from everyone. I have left them to themselves, even in my mind.

  If you want a relationship with your Father then read Hassen and start using stratagy. You can have a relationship if it is worth the time, heartache, and stress to you. No one is unsaveable. But for me I focus on those who have yet to convert, the ones who do not know the true nature of this sect. And those who are or, desire to be in control of their actions and want to be responsible for themselves. Real people are cool. You can really trust them. You can freely love them and not worry.

  There are all types of people who will not think for themselves. In and out of someones family. Remember to choose your battles. Don't let them choose them for you. My email is open for you if you want to talk.

  For what it is worth I respect you for standing up for yourself. For being honest about your feelings. It takes balls to do that.
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  How did you successfully move on...?

  by Vee in

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  there are actually some questions at the bottom of this lengthy thesis, however i thought a bit (ha ha) of background might be necessary first:-) .

  some 12months ago after the switch flicked over in my head, i began the challenge of facing my fears head on, which led to breaking through the first mental barriers of the damage done by 22 years (from birth) of indoctrination.. the fear of loosing all i had was insignificant in comparison to denying myself any further what it really meant to be true to myself.

  for the first time, i could honestly attribute that all my mental strength and decisions were of my own accord.

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  Vee, Consider some books on healthy relationships. Learn what that means. Some people escape bad relationships into the jw's or some other authoritarian group. They trade one person or system of control for another. Then when they leave again they look for someone or something else to tell them what to do and someone who will allow them to blame someone or something else. When a person chooses to take control of themselves they will quickly outgrow the jw's. Staying will not be an option. Philip Mcgraw has good books. A man by the name of Smally has good books and seminars. He even does video series that focus on succeeding in relationships. Ericcson wrote that when we are growing up we hear 17 negative comments for every one positive comment about what we do. (Do you think that neg # is higher with jw kids?) As adults we can hear 17 positive statements and it only takes one negative comment to wipe them out and make us grumpy or bitter. (I find that amazing) I have begun doing everything possible to affirm my kids, in fact everyone around me that I can. I do what I can to not be negative around people. I also do not accept negative comments that others give me. I let them know that I do not accept garbage. Often they say OK. But I have found JW's go manic. Then they avoid me. Which is good.