I LOVE beer.
But I am all girl.
sometimes, the gender of a poster is relatively easy to deduce due to their style of posting, and, dare i say it, their choice of vocabulatory.
but sometimes it is difficult to know if you are "talking" to a man or a woman (or homosexual).
ok, right away, i hear protests of "what the heck does it matter?
I LOVE beer.
But I am all girl.
what was it about living forever that appealed to you when you were a jw?.
was it the idea that you'd have all the time in the world to do whatever you wanted to do?
were you thinking about travelling the world and seeing it all transformed into a paradise?
Simon said "we're all forgotten in a couple generations"
He's so right. isn't it sad? I just went and saw my grandparents, once vibrant busy people. Gramma was asleep with her head on the table and didn't recognize me. Grampa is in a wheel chair and half of his face is paralyzed from a surgery. his biggest task that day was getting an entire glass of milk drank. You know, I do not know what their grand parents names were. My kids kids won't even ask about mine I am sure.
what's your favourite cheese, please?.
mine's gruyere, a swiss cheese that is absolutely scrummy.http://www.cheese.com/description.asp?name=gruyere.
of course, i still enjoy the noble stilton, danish blue and there ain't nothing to compare to a genuine parmesan with pasta.. but, gruyere takes some beating, i reckon.. englishman.
TR you're killin me! (lmao)
I like string cheese. It is very ungay (not that there's anything wrong with that). In fact, it is simple, clean, quick, sorta chewy, and...the kids love it.
Cream cheese count? Cus that is the living end!
if you were to describe what your status was in the congregation, what would it be?
were you viewed as mature?
in "good standing", a pain in the rear?
Bad association.
had a non believing husband and not only allowed my children to have non witness friends, I also had non witness friends. And I got a little outspoken on politics (tsk tsk). Sister, we're supposed to be neutral! yeah right. You can guess I didn't get invited to a lot of "get togethers". If I did, I often brought beer.
as a youngster raised in the "truth", i had my questions.
but anytime you ask a question that is unanswerable, you are told to just wait on jehovah.
as time passes, i believe that we store up a number of unanswerable questions that forces one to eventually think about everything.
This has been an interesting thread to read through.
I think mine was back at a talk some visiting "brother" gave about the family unit. Now I was never a big feminist but he said, "The fall of the family unit began, brothers, (didn't ever say "and sisters") was women's liberation. Once the women chose to leave their place in the family unit, it was doomed to failure" I was sitting there with my jaw on the floor. I looked slowly over to my husband who by then was giggling (as he does when he sees me get pissed about something, for some reason he thinks I'm cute when I am mad). I whispered, "did you hear that? Are you hearing this?"
he nods and smiles ear to ear. I did not think it was funny. I looked around the congregation and saw all the stepford wives just nodding their heads "yup yup, aint that so true...a sister needs to stay home away from worldly gossip, go out in service, find interested leads that we hand over to our more intelligent husbands" Gag gag, putoooey!
After that little episode (and I did mention this to the PO who used their "we are not perfect men" disclaimer) I started to hear a LOT of things that rubbed me the wrong way. At the assembly, the big convention one, a woman told a story about how she had had so many strokes and could not be around flourescent lighting anymore or she would pass out. BUT she still went to the hall (all flourescent lighting folks) and she passed out. She did this THREE times until it put her in a coma. This was the testimonial they had up there for our example of "christian determination". Good god! I was floored. My husband said," Those are the sort that will strap a bomb to themselves and run in to a church of contrary teachings" two months later, the 9-11 attacks. Things just fell apart from that day on.
what was it about living forever that appealed to you when you were a jw?.
was it the idea that you'd have all the time in the world to do whatever you wanted to do?
were you thinking about travelling the world and seeing it all transformed into a paradise?
I didn't have a "REAL" family growing up. When I grew up I had my own kids and a good marriage and I didn't want it to end so I guess that much appealed to me. Also, I had a brother that died tragically at the age of 3 (actually he was a half brother but I didn't care, I was 9). I always saw that I some how survived this empty way of growing up and he did not since he had a more dangerous presence enter his life. No one but my grandparents were at his burial. Everytime I go to california, I go to his little grave. I had wanted to be there waiting for him in the new system.
Last saturday, I went to his grave for the first time as a non JW. this time I spoke to him now that I no longer think the dead are unconscious of anything. I sat next to that grave for a long time and watched it get dark in the desert. I'm okay with the fact that he wont' be in some new system needing his sister to raise him. Not sure where he is actually but I can surmise. That part is personal. :0)
Edited by - terabletera on 6 November 2002 18:33:20
just saw a couple postings you did that made me think you were a bit in the dumps.
i don't know why but i just wanted to say that i am sorry you feel bad.
if you want to share why things are not working out right now, i'll listen.
Just saw a couple postings you did that made me think you were a bit in the dumps. I don't know why but I just wanted to say that I am sorry you feel bad. If you want to share why things are not working out right now, I'll listen. Just wanted you to see that it was noticed and I didn't want you to think no one cared.
Tera
i've worked for the same company since i left college, for a long time, and so some people where i work have known me for many years.
i am by and large still known as a jehovah's witness who generally refuses social invites.
i have not spoken a great deal to my work colleagues about my change of heart about my religion, just a select few, although people have definitely noticed that i don't preach at them anymore!
firstly, merry christmas.
My JW mom knew I was "doing christmas" last year. The JWs came around here saying they "heard rumblings" about us doing the holidays. That had to travel through TWO congregations to get found out. Yet, amazingly, it occurs in "the truth". Gossip, after all, is the only way to the truth.
They didn't DF me cus my husband has always been "Worldly" and made it ever so clear that he would remain so even while I was very JW. So they went with it that the lights all over the house were his doing. Who cares? I didn't. I only tried not to DA myself because I did'nt want my mother being pressured to shun me and she needs me. They have pressured her to do so anyway. So now she calls only when she needs help. Help that they increasingly do not give her as they did at first in effort to keep her from "needing" me.
Guess what I am saying is...one needs to NOT care about being found out or else it is miserable. I think your going to this christmas party will say a lot that you have not said. I know the feeling because I started taking part in many school holiday events and am NOT up to telling them all how I left the borg. They never have been JW so how can they "get it"? If they look surprised and say the "Wow, I sure didn't expect to see you here.." You can respond in a very nice tone, "I am sure of that. I think though you can expect to see me here next year too." If they push for more information, likely they won't. You can just do as I did, "I just had to leave it behind" and left it at that.
Well, I'm off to go vote.
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i've attended enough meetings to know that the jw's consistently are building themselves up instead of their beloved jehovah.
talk about idols of the heart, but sadly, they can't see it.. the truth is they use the bible to try to support their teachings, when everyone in their right mind uses their teachings to support the bible.. gig
"look at me, I am a pioneer, Look at me I did 130 hours this month in field service"
people actually DID 130 hours? Gawd I thought it was 90! sheeeeeeeeeeeit! Wow. Hello?
my goodness, more fluff.
ok, so what is your zip code?.
i live in las vegas.
59037
Those are just great numbers aren't they? I mean, I never gave them much thought till now. Never, and I mean, NEVER has anyone wanted to know my zip code just for the hell of it. Okay when I have to pay something or filling out some stupid form they say "zip?" but they just dont really care. You did...thanks for asking.
tera