Posts by Loris

What!!! It's in Latin? Why in the world would they do that? Jesus didn't speak Latin. If they were going for accurate history it would have been a mixture of Greek and Hebrew.

That reminds me of a FS experience. I had given my carefully rehearsed presentation. It must have been in December because it involved a NWT Bible. The redneck, toothless householder was not impressed with a modern language Bible. He said that he would only read the King James Bible because that is the language that Jesus spoke. And if it was good enough for Jesus it was good enough for him.

I'll bet a lot of ignorant people believe that Jesus spoke Latin because that is the official language of the Catholic Church.

People are just too funny.

Loris

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Out of all the dumb things my parents have done...

by Nosferatu in

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out of all the dumb things my parents have done, this one tops the cake.

they taught me how to spell my last name wrong all my life.

on my birth certificate, my last name ends with "ens".

Loris

Those Greeks do funny things with names. My daughter-in-law is Greek. Her last name was Asmakis before she married my son. Her oldest brother got the full family name of Asmaraganakis and her and her younger brother got the abreviated form of Asmakis. I was told that it had something to do with the eldest son had the right to the full family name.

A name is what you make it.

Loris

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Internet Beginnings

by Loris in

i searched but didn't find this posted.

if anyone has seen this, my apologies.

how the internet began (makes more sense, too)

Loris

I searched but didn't find this posted. If anyone has seen this, my apologies. HOW THE INTERNET BEGAN (Makes more sense, too)

In ancient Israel , it came to pass that a trader by the name of
Abraham Com did take unto himself a young wife by the name of Dot.
And Dot Com was a comely woman, broad of shoulder and long of leg.

Indeed, she had been called Amazon Dot Com.

She said unto Abraham, her husband, "Why doth thou travel far from
town to town with thy goods when thou can trade without ever leaving thy
tent?"

And Abraham did look at her as though she were several saddle bags
short of a camel load, but simply said, "How, Dear?"

And Dot replied, "I will place drums in all the towns and drums in
between to send messages saying what you have for sale and they will reply
telling you which hath the best price. And the sale can be made on the drums
and delivery made by Uriah's Pony Stable (UPS)."

Abraham thought long and decided he would let Dot have her way with
the drums. The drums rang out and were an immediate success. Abraham
sold all the goods he had at the top price, without ever moving from his
tent.

But this success did arouse envy. A man named Maccabia did secret
himself inside Abraham's drum and was accused of insider trading. And the
young men did take to Dot Com's trading as doth the greedy horsefly
take to camel dung.

They were called Nomadic Ecclesiastical Rich Dominican Siderites, or
NERDS for short.

And lo, the land was so feverish with joy at the new riches and the
deafening sound of drums that no one noticed that the real riches
were going to the drum maker, one Brother William of Gates, who
bought up every drum company in the land. And indeed did insist on making drums that would work only with Brother Gates' drumheads and drumsticks.

Dot did say, "Oh, Abraham, what we have started is being taken over
by others." As Abraham looked out over the Bay of Ezekiel , or as it
came to be known, "eBay," he said, "We need a name that reflects
what we are."

And Dot replied, "Young Ambitious Hebrew Owner Operators."

"YAHOO!" said Abraham.

And that is how it all began. It wasn't Al Gore after all.

Loris

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JW's ripped off the 1975 date

by RunningMan in

holy crap!

i was doing some reading about old herbert w armstrong, after hearing about his son's death, and i found something totally unexpected.as early as 1956, he pointed to the year 1975 as being for example, in the 1956 wcg publication, 1975 in prophecy, armstrong wrote; "but now you're going to peek into the surprising future, exactly as it will happen!

not what men plan-but what god says!...very soon-of this very present generation-of all people you know now-only one third of them will be left alive!

Loris

it looks like Armstrong beat them

Now there's something to be proud of. Dumb and Dumber of the religions of the world.

Loris

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Did Satan lie or was it the truth?

by shotgun in

satan the biblical originator of the lie...was he?.

god told adam:.

16 the lord god (56) commanded the man, saying, "from any tree of the garden you may eat freely; .

Loris

And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil

Before Satan deceived Eve where and what was the evil that the "us" knew? And who were the "us"?

Clearly there is more to the story that we are told.

Loris

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Do you regret ever getting baptized

by ikhandi in

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thousand of witnesses do it every year and for what they believe are good reasons.

i did it because i was pressured by elders.

its interesting to note how elders can target young people into committing their life to something they really know nothing about.

Loris

I do not regret my baptism. Jesus gave instructions to get baptized. I regret that I got involved with the JW's. Although I gained some insight into scripture from them in the beginning. I got baptized in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. 1965. I did not dedicate my life to an organization.

How do you feel about breaking your vow to serve god faithfully for the rest of your life?

I haven't broken my vow to God. I sincerely believe that leaving the JW's as soon as I knew they were hypocrits was a show of faithfulness to God. I am now free to serve him for the rest of my life.

Loris

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Need help...Did you shun a relative?

by alamb in

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i need your help again guys.

i need anyone with a story regarding shunning a parent, grandparent, uncle, aunt, etc.

to tell me their story.. i have collected similar stories from around the globe in regards to how shunning has torn apart your family due to your being the victim of the shunning.

Loris

When I became a JW in 1965 my mother began a hate campaign against me. She is a Fundamentalist with a Pentacostal bent but she has not attended a church for many years. I have at times thought that she needed an excuse to show her hatred of me and I gave it to her by becoming a JW.

I finally told her to never contact me again (we live on opposite sides of the country). Now I am struggling with do I or don't I tell her that I am no longer a JW. Would it make things alright between us or will I regret opening up too her? Will she gloat and say, "I told you so."?

How does one un-shun a relative? Especially when such ugly mean things have been said.

Loris

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Baptism pre-new questions - signed anything?

by Phantom Stranger in

i was baptised around 1978 - don't remember the date anymore.

this was before the "organization-centered" baptism questions.

did i sign anything in order to get baptized?

Loris

Baptized in '65

Nothing to sign until standing in line coming out of the dressing room on the way to the pool. Brother stationed there asked if we were ever baptized before, wrote down our answer, then we signed what looked kind of like a sign up sheet.

Was asked the same question but didn't sign anything.

Incidentally I had never been to a KH before my baptism. The convention was my first experience with JW meetings. I have never met anyone with a similar experience.

Loris

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The Invisible 'Ones'

by uriah in

i had an insight the other day, you know the type of thing - you walk past something everyday and suddenly you become aware of it.. well, many on this board probably have come to the same conclusion so if i am repeating it - sorry.

what is it i hear you shout.

ok.. in my experience, i hardly saw any jw's except at meetings or meetings for fm.

Loris

Many (all in fact - sorry WT habit) who have been irregular I spoke to, spoke of no-one contacting them, as though they had never existed and on going back to the hall it was as if they had never been away. No-one noticed whether they were there or not.

Yes, I was an invisible one for most of my 37 years "in"

I could be deathly ill or suffering from major depression and miss a couple of months of meetings. The first meeting I went to I was greeted with comments such as, " I thought you moved." (which meant they noticed I was gone but really didn't care where.) or "How you been?" (which meant they never even noticed my absence and the time interval went unnoticed,too.) Of course the elders rarely looked in my direction anyway so they didn't acknowledge their failure to come knocking on my door to inquire about my absence.

I (a) was a proselytized JW instead of being born into it, i.e. "new money", or (b) was the only member of my family who became a baptized JW; my parents were strong opposers, or (c) I did not have an elder, pioneer, Gilead graduate, Bethelite, or Overseer in my family

Me too. It was as though no one could relate to my experience so there was nothing to talk about.

Loris