Lambsbottom: that was not meant to attack you. Maybe you live in a good way ecologically. Wbts probably has environmentally a bad impact as their printing uses too much resources and trees. At least they are downsizing.
Daniel1555
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The WT Society, Global Warming, and the NWO
by lambsbottom inwas just looking at how many articles the wt put out around the time when al gore was pitching the global warming bs for his nwo (new world order) friends.. .
http://nypost.com/2013/12/05/global-warming-proof-is-evaporating/.
wt would rather jws to:.
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The WT Society, Global Warming, and the NWO
by lambsbottom inwas just looking at how many articles the wt put out around the time when al gore was pitching the global warming bs for his nwo (new world order) friends.. .
http://nypost.com/2013/12/05/global-warming-proof-is-evaporating/.
wt would rather jws to:.
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Daniel1555
You live in a dreamworld if you believe that global warming is a fraud from msinstream scientists.
Global warming is a fact that you can see with many examples.
Come to our mountains in switzerlanand you can see it firsthand. Go to greenland, the arctic or antarctica and you can experience it. Go to the philippines and look at the aftermath of one of the biggest storms. Or make vacations in Kiribati that is about to vanish in the pacific ocean.
Well yes, just deny all the facts and continue to take always the car, eat big steaks and so on and our grandchildren will thank you.
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Is asking questions of logic about a Global Flood effective in waking loved ones?
by BU2B ini was thinking about using a tactic of asking questions revolving around "noahs flood" to try to start my wife doing some serious thinking.
unlike doctrine that cannot often be proven one way or another, this issue can be proven beyond the slightest doubt that it is impossible.. i was thinking about asking a question something like this "i was reading about coral reefs today, and they sure are amazing!
what amazed me the most is how long it takes for them to build the reef, and how long they live!
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I don't know if logic will change something in her belief system. I also explained once all the logical flaws of the flood story with my wife. She says that probably the flood was local and not global. But who cares 'We will find out in the new system.'
It's however a good way to do it with questions.
On this thread we discussed about the flood too.http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/268118/1/Dr-Hans-Kristian-Kotlar-supports-creation
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Feedback on Letter
by mrhhome inlooking for feedback.
to bring you all back up to speed, wife is ex-jw.
shunned by her brother and parts of her family at uncles jw funeral.
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Daniel1555
It is very loving and great to see how you defend your wife.
Did he really call her slut?
Good luck to you and your wife.
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Dr. Hans Kristian Kotlar supports creation.
by Darkanyons inhello gents and ladies.
whats your take on this article on jan 2014 awake?.
did your view of evolution change?.
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Daniel1555
I believe the flood account and sumerian, accadian flood accounts share the same origin. A huge local flood that remained in the collective memory of those nations (not 2400 bce but older.
There are many more flood legends around the world. WT says it is because all humans come from Noah. I believe that those legends come from huge floods after the melting ofvthe last ice age 14000-8000 years ago. The sea level eas about 120metres below todays level. That gave an enormous amount of land to inhabit which is flooded now. There were maybe civilisations that we have never heard if.
In India for example in the gulf of cambay ruins were found deep below sea level. On the japanese island of yonaguni some there are structures deep under water that some scientists believe to be manmade.
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Dr. Hans Kristian Kotlar supports creation.
by Darkanyons inhello gents and ladies.
whats your take on this article on jan 2014 awake?.
did your view of evolution change?.
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Daniel1555
DS211: Rainbows exist when sunlight is reflectef in water sparks. Way before the flood there must have been rainbows as it rained before even the creation of man. The bible speaks of a humid climate.
The flood account doesnt contradict a local flood. The term whole earth is often used in the bible to describe some local things like the roman worldpower.
Flavius Josephus writes in his work 'Jewish antiquities' in paragraph 94-95 and 109 that many people fled to the high mountains and survived the flood (the wt society often quotes from that work). When you view it that all evil people living close to Noah died (but a lot that survived in other parts of the land) then not even this is a contradiction.
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Old Literature being destroyed again!
by KW13 inthe society are at it again.
witnesses at a local congregation are getting rid of old literature that predates the early 90's.
you can imagine why.
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Daniel1555
How do you know that they destroy it.
In our library we have some okd books like the harp of god. They are not destroyed.
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ITS A MIRCALE,YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE WHAT JUST HAPPEN TO ME.
by Crazyguy infirst i made love to my wife, maybe i'm better in bed then i thought, because about an hour after that my wife comes back in and i'm sitting at my desk and i asked her, "when the elders df me are you going to leave me, spiritual endangerment and all" she said, no, i don't feel endangered and we talked awhile and i talked about da ing and not sure what to do, then i shared with her a toned down version of the da letter that i posted and that led to her asking about my beliefs and understandings of who the great crowd and 144k, heaven and earthly hopes.
i was even able to tell her how they changed or distorted the meaning of the word naos to show the great crowd not in heaven.
i was able to show her some of the scriptures from the da letter, able to tell her a little about 1914 and how jesus did'nt invisably come in a presence, showing her scriptures on that and some more ttatt.
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Daniel1555
Crazyguy: I am happy that you and your wife had an open discussion. You certainly feel relieved. Just continue to show a greater measure of love and respect to her. I hope the same happens once with my wife.
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Dr. Hans Kristian Kotlar supports creation.
by Darkanyons inhello gents and ladies.
whats your take on this article on jan 2014 awake?.
did your view of evolution change?.
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Daniel1555
I talked to one geologist who is mentioned in the awake about creation a few years ago. He is an elder too.
I asked him that I find it hard to believe in a global flood and if there are some geological signs or proofs for a global flood. He said he asks himself the same questions because there is no geological evidence for a global flood 2400 bc. So he tends to believe it was a local flood.
The bible does not speak against a local flood. The hebrew word for 'earth' means actually land (the people of that time did not think of a round blue planet when they thought about earth), the hebrew word for 'mountains' can also mean 'hills'.
Scientists Pitman and Ryan proved that the black sea was flooded about 7000 years ago. Flood myths could have started when the ice caps of the ice age melted.
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DA'd then what to expect.
by Crazyguy inso the impending doom of the end is coming and i will not be df'd so they can tell others i sinned or something else.
i will da, but not sure what to expect next and what they will say to my family and children.
i have 5 kids one baptised and ofcourse a wife, so what should i prepare for??
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Daniel1555
Crazyguy: The elders normally won't promote a divorce (jehovah hates divorce). Spiritual endangerment would be if you constantly bombard her with apostate views and hinder her in her theocratic activities.