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  Are foreign-language groups at a disadvantage when learning TTATT?

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  2. friends

  the watchtower library cd in spanish only goes back to watchtowers of 1970. this means that, for example, www.ajwrb.org 's info regarding blood can only be confirmed in articles from then onward.

  english-speaking jw's can access information on watchtowers going back to 1950. this means that the "worship jesus" article (1954) is not available, the "we officially ban organ transplants" (1967) is not available, etc.. congregations in the u.s. and canada have had witnesses since... well... the beginning.

  most kh libraries have very old books; it is relatively easy to find books going back to the very first watchtower!!

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  Why are the moms so attached to religion?

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  please don't take this the wrong way, i would love it for women to comment on this thread because i just can't understand something!!.

  here's the pattern i see:.

  mostly guys in here.. if the guys are married, their wives usually stay a jw, or it takes 3 times as much time to convince a woman to leave than a man.. if the guys have a jw father, the father is open-minded and can be more easily persuaded to leave.

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  Fading hurts so much!!

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  yet another update on my story:.

  for various reasons, i still have to go to all meetings.

  (i am looking to change my personal circumstances to allow me to live somewhere else so i can fade easier)... i actually don't mind going to the mid-week meeting since i can comment on the bible reading, and slowly but surely i can introduce little seeds of cognitive dissonance... making it seem like i am super interested in what the interlinear says or that people can actually go and check out the manuscripts for themselves online!

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  What would be the best decision if we took out all the religion out of the blood issue?

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  2. medical

  i am wondering this:.

  what surgeries/procedures/situations have been shown to be life-or-death decisions without blood?.

  i only know, currently, of trauma (car accident, gunshot wound, etc).... what would be treatable exclusively with "no blood fractions" and with "no procedures using my blood"?.

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  Update on my story

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  for all you who are just reading this forum and find out the truth about the truth: learn from my mistakes please!!.

  with the wisdom that i have gotten from jwn, reading freedom of mind by steven hassan (yes, i finally read it!

  ), i now have changed my strategy: .

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  Let's lampoon the buzzwords!!

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  i am keeping this short because i have little time but... here are my favorite lampoons of the buzzwords:.

  watchtower - washtowel.

  conventions - con-ventions... i would invent con-men-showns.

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  My Story So far

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  2. friends

  i hope i have not fully screwed up, it seems like my friends whom i have told my true feelings realy, really, deep down inside, love me, and that's why they have not gone to the elders.

  also probably because they know that i love them and would never tell them something if i wasn't 100% convinced and knew that it wasn't true.. .

  i guess i can tell you a bit of my story so you can help:.

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  I had to control my laughter...

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  today at the meeting, during the prayer (to which i did not say "amen" to) the brother said "thank you for everything the faithful and discreet slave do for us.

  we know it is because they love us...".

  to which i had to really control my laughter cause i was about to burst out laughing... i just smiled, thankfully everyone else had their eyes closed and head down.... .

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  Ideas to increase cognitive dissonance

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  2. friends

  ok so from the help of various people, i now have thought of various ways to increase cognitive dissonance without showing "apostate reasoning"... usually it works by highlighting other beliefs (sorry people if someone here is of any of the faiths i will mention... i do not mean to insult, just to save my family and friends from the wt...) and portraying them as "bad" when we have had exactly the same beliefs at one point!!

  (i will try the nathan-david approach... you are the man!!!).

  vaccinations: "i find it soooo stupid that some religions reject vaccinations!!

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  Help!! Don't know where to start

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  2. friends

  ok so to start... i am still an active jw... but only because i cannot get out yet... i am slowly planning to get out.... i should really read hassan's cult control book... it seems like i am getting everything wrong in trying to help the people i know to know ttatt.. so i will need your help, all of you dear people.. my current, actual beliefs are pretty much agnostic... no belief in any particular dogma, but i believe there is a higher power out there.... there are so many things on my mind... for example,.

  1. the fact that no nt manuscript contains the name "jehovah".

  2. the blood doctrine.

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