Great post Brummie. If we were all the same and posted exactly alike this place would not exist or be very interesting. The variety means there is something for everybody.
Cheers,
BReal
Posts by breal
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24JWD Analyst get on my ti**
by Brummie inwhy do people come along and try to analyse all the posters here?
always reffering to the "many" or the "majority" and swiping them off as being thick or stupid?
its sounds like they are saying: "their posts are not as interesting & deep as mine are they?
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Do you get yearly visits from the elders?
by unbeliever inmy sister just got a visit from the elders.
this was the first visit in 10 years.
an inactive friend told me they are supposed to visit every year.
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breal
it always amazes me to read the stories here about people who get "sheperding calls" or have dubs call on them while in service...not once since I left have I had either of those and that is a wonderful thing... (knock on wood so as not to jinx myself)
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((((((((((((Vancouver)))))))))))))))))
by jwsons in.
it's vancouver for winter 2010. but bad luck for our toronto 2012 summer olympic !.
jwsons
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breal
Hi Ray,
Yep a vote was held in February 2003...but it was late in the stages after the powers that be had already decided to have a Whistler/Vancouver bid back in November of 1998. Plus if anyone has ever been to Vancouver ...we have the Lower Mainland which consists of many cities close together... (Vancouver, North Vancouver, West Vancouver, Burnaby, Squamish, Coquitlam etc) and even though the Olympics would have an impact on all of the cities in the lower mainland to one degree or another, there was criteria limiting votes to ONLY City of Vancouver residents.
Cheers,
Breal
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((((((((((((Vancouver)))))))))))))))))
by jwsons in.
it's vancouver for winter 2010. but bad luck for our toronto 2012 summer olympic !.
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breal
Hurray! Well sort of! This win comes with many mixed viewpoints in Vancouver. While it will be wonderful it also means that the rapid transit line that was to have gone in one direction out of Vancouver to cities with major growth is going the other direction... this sucks for me who relies heavily on transit.
But hey it will put Vancouver on the map!
Cheers,
BReal
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Making friends after leaving the org
by Leander inhas anyone else out there had problems in this area?
its been a little more than a year since i've left the jws and as expected i lost a lot of friends, while they have'nt out right declared me off limits its clear that i'm longer considered as being close company.
usually i don't mind as i've always been a quiet kind of guy, but sometimes i really miss being able to just have a good friend to talk to every now and then.
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I relate leaving the org as similar to moving to a new city. It takes time to adjust. For me since I did both within a few years of each other I found that getting involved in any work activities helped, volunteer if you feel the desire and have the time. Another great way is if you enjoy sports join a "beer league" baseball, or volleyball team etc. It could even be a co-ed team if your spouse is inclined to join with you.
Most of all just open yourself up to the possibilities these new friendships offer. Remember that straight away they won't be exactly like the friendships from the past but that does not mean each friendship has little value and in time they will hopefully grow into the type of friendships you desire.
Cheers,
BReal
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well this really sucks
by SpiceItUp inyou ever have one of those things that happen to you that just leaves you speechless.
well the other day one of my best friends (someone i have known for years) told me that they might have cancer.
they have a tumor in their leg that just changed size as well as a small lump in their arm.
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breal
Hi Spice,
I am truly sorry to hear about your friend. I lost a very close friend to cancer last year. It was very sudden.
Here is a link from the Canadian Cancer Society on how to help someone who has been diagnosed with cancer. I am sure if you contact your local cancer society they would have information for you as well.
http://www.cancer.ca/ccs/internet/standard/0,2704,3172_369341__langId-en,00.html
Sounds like just by being with your friend you are helping.
Breal.
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My emotionally unhealthy living environment
by Nosferatu inwell, i can't say i didn't see this coming, but the reality has hit me.
my father has put me in a difficult position.
first of all, i need to give you guys some background on the situation.. back when i was 20 years old, i had a girlfriend.
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breal
Quality of life (not in a monetary sense but a happiness one) is very important . Perhaps you could look into sharing a place with a roommate or paying room and board somewhere else? Think of it as a dry run for things to come once you are married and need to support yourself and your wife. Or if you are able to stand it and it works best for you now financially and down the road with the wedding and the other things you have planned try to stick it out for another year. Good luck with whatever you decide.
Cheers,
BReal
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Why dont you leave....?
by anotheropenviewpoint ini have been reading quite a few of these threads and post and through it i feel as though i have come to know some of you and your behaviors.. i notice that there are many of you who are still associated with the hall, and have not left yet... yet, bring up very "strong" points on the board.. i have a question for all of you who fit this description.... why dont you just 'effin leave already?
whats holding you back?
if you feel soooo strongly that this is "wrong" are you too chicken to state your opinion to a family member?
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I can’t relate to this scenario as I was DF’d after leaving….but I think it may be similar to having a job that one gripes about all the time but sticks with for a variety of reasons…. (the grass is not always greener, family, friends, life in general, money etc) People tend to stick with what they know until they find the motivation or full reason or ability to change things. Sometimes circumstance prevents people from acting on certain decisions until a later date (ie: spouse, kids, school, work). The JW religion is simply this sort of scenario but on a much higher level. Being a JW affects every aspect of a JW’s life. I don’t believe that it is always that easy to pinpoint any ONE reason why someone stays, goes or slowly fades at there own pace. Deciding to leave may be an easy decision for some but for others it is more a journey and it can take time. Who are we to judge?
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Could you ever go back ??? What would the elders ask/make you do ???
by run dont walk innot meant to give anyone nightmares !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
i'm sure we will all answer no, but for the fun of it, what would have to happen for you to return to the kingdom hall,.
and what would the elders/judicial committee say to you if you wanted to go back.. do you think even if you returned with a new attitude, that you would always be "marked" by the congregation.. should get some interesting answers !!!!!!!!!
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breal
Already attempted a return before meeting my husband and it was a heart wrenching, humiliating experience. No desire to repeat it.
Not sure what the elders require of one trying to get reinstated.
I believe that it would be very difficult if not impossible to really have a “fresh start”.Sometimes when I am back in Alberta I am tempted to take my husband and attend a meeting where it all began just to have a good laugh and give them all something to chat about for while….but it’s not worth it. As much of an education as it would be for him it’s simply not worth it. I wonder if they would try to convert him?
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Through everything... do you feel that you learned soemthing?
by anotheropenviewpoint ini am new to the board and have read countless gripes and pokes at "the organization" but i fail to find one interesting question.. in preface... i was disfellowshiped myself over 5 years ago.
in that time, i had done much searching, visited many churches and faithes.. going to some for as short as one session and some as long as 6 - 8 months.
after i felt my search was in vein i stopped attempting to go to these shurches all together.. i never forgot how to pray through.
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I think being raised a JW gave me a very basic set of good morals to abide by. These same morals and values can be instilled in a person no matter the religious affiliation. I believe the JW’s take it one step over the line to a form of severe control and manipulation. Congrats on the changes you have made in your life and I am happy for you that you found being part of the JW’s an impetus for that. I believe that for each individual the willpower or motivation to change things in there life they deem to be negative varies.
Upon leaving I learned that one can be a good person without belonging to any religious organization. I discovered that I don’t always need to be striving to constantly prove myself worthy to other people.
Cheers,
BReal