What do they say or talk about to you? How do they respond? Some information you can give may help to find ways to tackle. I think evidence is important rather than just saying. It's more convincing to read the information whether it be a letter or watchtower or document. But that may spark suspicion since you were never a JW. You could always talk about disagreeing with the blood doctrine or point out how it's illogical. Doctrines that dont have a full biblical meaning but connected with outside information gives a chance in battle. Patience and time can take to reason.
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How to plant the seed and create some serious cognitive dissonance??
by Bells inhey :).
for a while, i've sort of been wondering why i always check in with this board... i mean it's filled with great people of course - and is my only link to what's happening in the jw world, but i shouldn't care that much... i'm not a jw, neither is my husband - it's only his batshit crazy family who are and it shouldn't bother me that much.. however it does interfere with my life and when i'm around them, they do somehow manage to make me feel like crap.
i think it's all mad and they are most definitely stuck in a cult, however my husband - who grew up as a jw just sort of shrugs his shoulders and is a bit 'it is what it is' - it doesn't seem to offend him as much as it does me.... every time that i hear about a new change or scandal on here, i think 'surely this will be what wakes them up'!
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When I decided to no longer turn in time...
by SG098 inbeing my 1st post i figured i should relate a personal experience.
a few months ago i decided to stop reporting time.
i'm mentally out of this cult now but still trapped because of family.
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The widow example is twisting scripture. as crazyguy said, it was an observation. Plus no one required her to put in the coins, it's just what was going on. i think asking the elders to read the biblical passages is a lot more convenient than them just paraphrasing or summarizing to get a feel of the context. But to stay calm and not arouse suspicion, there isn't much that can be done.
and numbers are important- that's is one factor that is looked into to give people privilages and to climb up the ranks. Not enough hours, you don't qualify.
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Pointless Speculation
by konceptual99 ini've noted a few people aluding to a rumour that there will be a "big announcement"(tm) that will "shock some"(tm) later this year, probably around agm time.. in the interests of pointless speculation, what might this be?
i am sure we can all think of some outlandish possibilities but i am interested in what could have some possibility of actually happening.. for example,.
- sisters able to do some aspects of ms roles.. - regional conventions (nee.
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Maybe 1914 may have a slight change? That's my guess at least, I could be wrong. The best time to bring in "new light" or something new of importance would be that assembly that will take place in November, when it will be broadcasted to kingdom halls in different countries.
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An old article I dug up. An Analytical master piece that really just blew my mind
by joe134cd ini found this article sitting in the files of jwn.
i have to say it's a masterpiece of writing and very informative.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/86393/1/can-the-truth-survive-the-internet#.u59svtoaysn.
it's the 7th post down on this thread and written by stephen cox.
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This was a good read, traces things back from the start of the internet and the loyalist vs dissenter wars. The Watchtower has seen how the internet has had a great affect in it, something they can't censor. They're best strategy is to fight back which is what they've been doing. But who knows how long this strategy will work. It's only a matter of time until the website has lost it's high peak and floats down to a certain number of average of viewers. Right now jw.org is being pushed not just on Witnesses but the public so it's numbers will go up, not to mention the millions of Witnesses that use it to get their literature from. It's the best shot they have.
type in JW.org on google, top result is that website but scrolling down you find JWsurvey and then JWfacts.
by the way, what ever happened to H2O? I've heard about it before on this website.
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Today is Father's Day in the US
by leaving_quietly init is one of those holidays jws do not celebrate.
there is no reason for it.
it is not a religious holiday.
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Their whole argument is stupid. There's no actual connection between Mother's/ Fathers Day with that of Roman times or religion. It started in the 20th century cause a lady wanted to dedicate a day to her mother. Nothing wrong with setting a special day and it doesn't mean people don't respect their mother or father the rest of the 364 days of the year. Creature worship is a weak argument, what about graduation day, or wedding anniversaries, etc?
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Farewell from Confused and Alone
by confusedandalone ini use to hate when people who made goodbye posts on message boards.
why would they think that just because you no longer post on a chevy truck forum or a los angeles lakers forum the world would crumble around those still left there.
this place is definitely different.
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We wish you the best in life and in the remainer of your journey. Have fun and feel free to stop by here anytime!
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Help please!!!
by braincleaned inmy mom just hung up on me, convinced that the borg has never said that jesus was not the mediator between the sheep and him!.
i know they have presumptuously took the place of jesus as mediators can someone pleeeeeeze give me the wt references of this?.
she does not believe me..
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This was talked about in the recently studied Jeremiah book, chapter 14. It's says jesus isn't the mediator except for 144,000, p.175
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puke-tacular new Sept 2014 koolaid WT is up
by baltar447 inhttp://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20140915/.
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Most of the "proofs" are based more on works than doctirines, teachings and beliefs in the article. It's basically done to get people to preach more.
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Unbalanced way of thinking?
by msconcerned inso, one hot beautiful (not a cloud in the sky) kind of summer day, there was an elder who decided to re shingle his house.
this was on the book study day.
he started early and got all the shingles off of the roof in time for the book study that night.
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Anyone in their right mind would change plans and go home to take care of their house. He could have at least gotten a substitute if he wanted the study to continue. This reminds me of the Philippines hurricane video where there were still people at the Kingdom Hall the night it was suppose to hit. I can understand if you're devoted to your religion but some things need to be put aside, especially for important and life situations.
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What is your biggest gripe with the WT and it's teachings?
by FL_Panthers inas the title says, please list what you find annoying with the organization..
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1914, the blood doctrine, and the false predictions are my biggest issues. While claiming to have "truth", they continue to ignore any reasonsble arguments that contradict them. And what really bothered me about predicting false dates more than the act itself is condemning others who have done the same thing.
Shunning because you no longer believe in this religion is also an issue. If you don't believe it in, you should be free to go Without heavy punishment