The Farmers Branch city council ( a suburb of Dallas, Tx.) has voted unanimously to make English the official language of the city. Also to fine landlords that rent to such ones. They backed off on employers hiring these folks. There was a large demonstration last night in front of city hall protesting the new ordinance. What do you think about this? Is it discrimination? I don't think so these folks are here illegally and employers exploit them as cheap labor. Our school system and healthcare system are being overwhelmed by them at taxpayers expense.
Farmers Branch Tx. assault on illegal immigrants (Mexicans)
by hambeak 77 Replies latest social current
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rwagoner
The key word is illegal. Rights come with LEGAL citizenship.
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daniel-p
Our school system and healthcare system are being overwhelmed by them at taxpayers expense.
I have read several studies that state immigration benefits the nation as a whole (economically), however, it can be to the detriment to certain localles where there are high concentrations of illegals, or "undocumented" ones. I don't know the in and outs of that particular local ordinance, but discrimination based on language or ethnicity is illegal and can land that entire City Council in seariously hot water. You can pretty much only discriminate based on age when it comes to renting property.
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Jim_TX
You seem to single out the Hispanics as the ones that are being targeted. Have you ever been to Farmers Branch, TX?
The company that I work for has a production/assembly facility in Farmers Branch, TX. I can tell you - for a fact - that there is a larger majority of 'other' nationalities - and not Hispanics. I am not sure the nationality... it's some sort of Asian cultures... and not just one. Several.
This also applies to the entire city - if you look beyond the outer facade. There are many cultures there. Are there 'illegals' there in these cultures? *shrug* Maybe. Personally, I cannot see how that there _couldn't_ be.
Just my .02 worth.
Regards,
Jim TX
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Elsewhere
I have known many LEGAL immigrants who went through hell to navigate the system in order to become LEGAL naturalized citizens or residences in this nation.
Knowing what these LEGAL immigrants went through I find it insulting that criminals will demand they receive all of the same rights and privileges that the LEGAL immigrants enjoy.
If we make it easy for someone to live in the US illegally or grant them amnesty, then why should anyone even attempt to enter the US legally? It would become a free-for-all with everyone pouring over the boarders with impunity.
I would love to see the LEGAL immigrants all get together and march in protest against anything that provides aid or comfort to illegal immigrants.
Regarding those who came to the US for the purpose of getting US citizenship for newborns... I would support a measure that strips US citizenship from all children born to illegal immigrants in the US. No free ride.
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rwagoner
but discrimination based on language or ethnicity is illegal
Legal protection is afforded to CITIZENS....LEGAL RESIDENTS.
How could a landlord..or city be guilty of discriminating against someone who is not in the country legally in the first place. Illegal imigrants have one right....to leave. Follow the legal path to citizenship or stay home.
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hambeak
Jim you are correct about many other cultures there, however my partners mom and dad live there and I go every sunday. On their street they have lived in the same home for 50 years and the entire neighborhood now is hispanic and very very few speak any english whatsoever.
If you drive thru Josey Ln. between valley view and just north of beltline all the stores and shops except a few cater to spanish speaking. His mom and dad don't go to the burger king or mc donalds any more as none of the staff speak english. It is very frustrating for 2 people in their mid 80's that don't go out much. True there are areas in the city that are asian and these are more affluent as they are college educated and I doubt they are illegal. Also east Indian also educated most here on work visas (healthcare) As for the Mexican folks most very nice are very poor and work at nowhere jobs. It is a big problem not only there but in a lot of places and the city council is acting on what a lot of people feel. The key word is Illegal not the culture.
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daystar
Parkland Hospital says that 70% of all new births there are to undocumented, and illegal, immigrants.
Dallas hospital cares for illegal immigrants.
It's a problem that I can't see an easy answer to. We can't really turn them away in such cases. I certainly don't want to see that. But the drain is untenable.
Shouldn't the U.S. hold Mexico responsible for the sad state of affairs in their own country that causes so many people to cross the border illegally? Does the Mexican government just not want these people, their own people, to stay in their country? Is this really an issue of a Mexican class war?
What I do know is that I don't particularly like to feel pressure to learn a new language in order to communicate with illigrants (my new word for illegal immigrants) who aren't trying to learn the language of their adopted nation. I know, English is not the official national language , but it is in practice. And I do know that I don't like the idea that legal citizens' tax money is going to pay for illegal, foreign immigrants to take advantage of our systems.
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daniel-p
Legal protection is afforded to CITIZENS....LEGAL RESIDENTS.
How could a landlord..or city be guilty of discriminating against someone who is not in the country legally in the first place. Illegal imigrants have one right....to leave. Follow the legal path to citizenship or stay home.
There's no need to take up theoretical rhetoric with me. I believe discrimination can apply to anyone, legal or illegal.
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Big Tex
It's a problem that I can't see an easy answer to. We can't really turn them away in such cases. I certainly don't want to see that. But the drain is untenable.
I agree. I think it was a massive failure of this Congress that failed to address a very real and serious problem. We tried blanket amnesty once (Reagan in 1986) and now 20 years later we're in the same mess, so I don't see that as a solution. I also think building a fence is just plain stupid. I'd like to see folks who live here illegally go through some sort of process to gain legal status. I'd also like to see the process streamlined and simplified somewhat as well. Right now the borders of this country are a sieve, and I do think there are some potential security concerns with illegal immigration that need to be addressed. So I think the border should be tightened up a great deal. But I don't know what the ultimate answer is.
Having said that, I truly resent seeing the word 'racist' thrown around because one do not embrace (without conditions) illegal immigration. As has been mentioned on this thread, the key word is "illegal". I don't think most Americans have any problem embracing immigrants, so long as the law is followed.